[Benjamin Jones]

Dave, thanks for the link, it was helpful.

I just read the article and need clarification on one last thought. When shooting 24p normal and the 3:2 pulldown is applied, you still receive a frame of interlacing, correct? Here is a paragraph from the article:

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24p Normal
When shooting in 24p Normal, the camera is adding normal standard 3:2 pulldown to the video, which results in 24p footage designed to work with any non-linear editing suite and it will play back and look good directly to any NTSC monitor. You can use 24p Normal footage just like normal video from any DV camera, and everything will work fine, but obviously, the footage will have a film look to it. If you’re just going straight back to NTSC video tape, then using 24p Normal is the simplest, easiest workflow. No special treatment of the footage is needed and you really can just edit as normal.
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Now, when he says, “no special treatment of the footage is needed, he still implies you’ll have splits, resulting in some bit of interlacing, correct?

Thanks.

[Benjamin Jones]

I now understand the difference between shooting 24p and 24pa. Bill thanks for the specific directions, but something fishy is occuring.
When I capture the 24p footage at the regular DV-NTSC capture rate like you suggested, I can not apply the Cinema tools effect that gets rid of the interlaced frames. Is this just something I have to deal with when editing in a 29.97 timeline? I understand the benefits of being able to mix 60i footage, etc. My LCD monitor still shows the interlaced frames, but do they go away on a NTSC monitor?

As an experiment, I captured the 24p footage with the advanced pulldown setting. Even though you said this is incorrect, capturing it at this setting allows me to add the cinema tools reverse telecine, which gives me NO interlaced frames and I think it looks better overall.

Thoughts? The reason I posted this question in the first place was because a client complained that the Rough Cut DVD I burned looked a bit ‘digital’ and ‘out of focus’. I thought it looked great (thought he may be seeing the strobing or interlacing) but since I don’t shoot in this format often I wanted to check my bases and make sure I wasn’t forgetting a step when dealing with 24p.

[Benjamin Jones]

Thanks for the help Bill. Here’s where I’m at..

When I capture the material at 24p and place it into a 24p timeline, it does not need to render, but I get the interlaced lined 1 out of 4 frames. I can see these lines on the canvas as well as on my external monitor. It does not allow me to apply the Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine because it says this only works on 29.97 clips.

So, if I capture the 24p footage at 29.97 and place it into a 29.97 timeline, I CAN apply the Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine and it gets rid of the 1 interlaced frame and smooths it out. Is this my solution? Although I shot the material at 24p, capture it at 29.97, place in a 29.97 timeline, and apply the cinema tools effect?

If this is the case, why would you ever capture 24p and edit in a 24 frame timeline?

Grrrr..

[Benjamin Jones]

I shot the material in 24p but not the 24p advanced. Could this have anything to do with it? Even when I capture using the pulldown removal preset this does not solve the problem.

The footage is not going to film. Keep the ideas coming, I appreciate it.