Ben Holmes
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I will start a new thread above in response to this, so it doesn’t get buried. I have to go out shortly, so it will probably be a few hours before I can post a full description of this – but stay tuned. I will say I’ve used FCP7 on the rMBP and it works fine – with a couple of small caveats. More to follow.
I’ll add a link to the new thread here when the post is up.
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Hi all
I got my RMBP yesterday, and will be testing it on fcp7 today. I’ll report back, but after playing today I’d have to say I’m not concerned. The display options either allow me to have a pixel doubled 1440×900 res (which I think is too small for FCP) or scaled higher resolutions (pixel count not given) where the highest looks like the 1920×1200 display used on my old 17″ Mbp. These also look pin sharp (ie not how you’d expect scaled resolution to be when scaling down on a monitor). So I think you’ll just select the size you’re comfortable with…
I also have the wine skin hack. It’s fun, but text is TINY! I’ll post a screen shot of FCP7 for lols.
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The following:
https://www.barefeats.com/fcpx01.html
suggests that FCPX runs better on the newest iMac than the last gen Mac Pro (in 6-core form). The new Mac Pros are much the same – although I suppose the 12-core machines with your own gfx upgrade might be quicker.
Most people believe the current Mac Pros are overpriced and out of date – and the iMac is a great machine for FCPX – you could have two of them for less money (and use one as a second screen for the other!). The Mac Pro will either be replaced with something else within the next 12 months, or end of lined. Either way, it’s not a good purchase.
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OK – before I feed further hysteria about this (Apple has abandoned FCP7 users! Oh wait – it did), according to this page:
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/
All Macbook Pros – including Retina ones – will ship with Lion, with a free ML upgrade when it ships ‘in the summer’. You have to figure there are already new RMBPs (see what I did there?) in the supply chain with Lion installed.
If not – I shall be returning it with a copy of the above web page!
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I guess the release is that close – so it could happen. I’m trying to remember if they said the new retina settings and apps (like FCPX) that were shown were running on Lion or ML. Do we have any clear indication that FCP7 DEFINITELY won’t run under ML? It seems pretty stable on Lion (although I still use SL on my Mac Pros).
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OK – thanks Shane. Curious to see how good or bad legacy apps look on one of these. I don’t think we’ll see a retina enabled FCP7! Of course, wait too long and you might be stuck with a machine running Mountain Lion (and not be able to run FCP7 at all for all we know)…
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It’s not true to say that everything is there for a new type of Mac Pro. There is no solution to the ‘monitor out’ requirements of Thunderbolt for machines with high end gfx cards. Smaller alternatives to SATA drives are still a little too expensive to be widely used – and warrant a shrinking of the drive bays (unless you want to put notebook drives in a Mac Pro), and most people still want to run cards on a PCIe bus. In addition, new generation server chips (which have a much larger die than desktop equivalents) are not available yet in large quantities as the yields are lower on these chips. Apart from USB3 – what compelling new technology exists to warrant a change to the Mac Pro? And given the slow update cycle of large server grade chips – what newer chips exist to put in what has always been a server class machine? If you want desktop chips, Apple are happy to sell you an iMac. I think they’re very good value.
If you can’t wait – don’t. I can wait – and I will, because of my desire to keep using an operating system and ecosystem I’ve invested 10 years in and which I believe is superior to support and run. And because even the Mac Pros I bought in 2008 still do everything I need – mine have CUDA gfx and 16Gb Ram and run CS6 very nicely, as well as FCP7 which I still make my money with – oh and Avid. I’m not aware of a PC which can do all of this. Hackintoshes (although I’ve built them for personal use) have no professional interest for me.
Sorry to say I don’t subscribe to the “Apple has abandoned us” meme – but I respect the opinions of those who do. When there is a compelling combination of software and hardware that makes me want to buy a PC – I probably will, unless Apple gets there first. So far, I see no rush.
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I’m disappointed mostly by the lack of graphics updates and system memory etc. So I’ll stick with my old ones for now.
Not sure why anyone should care about Thunderbolt or USB3 on a computer that can use Fibre or 10GbE via a PCI card – except as a means of plugging in portable drives.
To me the update is significant if only because they put a ‘new’ tag on it on the store. The processor updates were no doubt due to a lack of the older ones in supply chains (these are more recent equivalents) – but I think they were sending a message here to the FB groups etc. – otherwise why tag it new at all?
Contrary to the usual hysteria, I think the message from Apple is “the Mac Pro is not going away – but it is in a holding pattern whilst we replace it.” The technology is coming together to make it. I think it will come too late for some – but that’s life. I’m not stampeding away from OSX when I still have viable, reliable money-making systems running software I know backwards, and with which my clients are very happy.
If you disagree with that last paragraph – no worries. But bear in mind my interpretation of this move has just as much basis in fact as the idea that the Mac Pro is dead – in other words it’s all conjecture.
And – barring the usual braggadocio on here – I suspect neither are many of you.
Stop reading tealeaves – or the entrails of what you believe are dead animals. It will only give you ulcers.
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NB: This assumes these new machines are in stores in the US. Doesn’t look like they’ll reach us for a couple of weeks over in the UK.
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