Anthony Guest-scott
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Anthony Guest-scott
June 25, 2010 at 8:31 pm in reply to: simultaneous 4-channel DV audio capture: change over time and reasonI see. So, it sounds like, from what Rafael suggests, that digital audio generally, when represented as Mono, does not assign it to a particular left or right stereo (or surround, for that matter) output.
Thanks, Mark, for suggesting that solution in FCP. Another way I’ve found is by using the Assignment drop-down list in QuickTime’s audio settings for the file (in the file’s sound track under Properties). For my example, I can just set Channel 1 to “Left” instead of “Mono.”
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Anthony Guest-scott
June 25, 2010 at 2:02 pm in reply to: simultaneous 4-channel DV audio capture: change over time and reasonI appreciate you looking into this issue, Rafael, and my apologies for taking so long to respond.
You know, I have tried your suggestion of capturing directly in QuickTime Pro (7.6.6, in this case). Here is what happens:
Opening the file in QT and looking at the audio settings for the sound track under Properties shows 4 channels, with the first channel assigned as Mono and the rest described as “unused.” This is accurate when compared with the source tape. And, when dragged to a Final Cut Pro timeline, I do see 4 tracks of audio appear there.
I should not that when I play back this file (in QT or FCP), the sound plays back as dual mono instead of true mono (on the left channel) as was present on the source tape. This seems to be an issue with sound output on the computer workstation however – routing that audio through both sides of my headphones – because when I look at channels 2, 3, and 4 in the FCP Viewer, there is no waveform.
But here’s the catch…when I look at item properties for this file in FCP, it tells me that all channels were recorded as 16-bit 32 kHz audio instead of 12-bit. Furthermore, a MediaInfo report shows the following (copied below). I am not exactly sure how to interpret the audio information in this analysis. It looks like it is showing 3 audio tracks, and I am confused about how to interpret the channel information contained for each track and bit rate – some say 12, others say 16.
General
Complete name : /AHEYM_video_testing/4_channel_12bit_32k/atm_09010d04_mdv352_qt.mov
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 40.0 MiB
Duration : 10s 877ms
Overall bit rate : 30.8 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:40:31
Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:40:34
Writing library : Apple QuickTime 7.6.6
com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model : MacPro1,1
com.apple.quicktime.software : Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D573)
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate : 2010-06-25T09:38:50-0400
com.apple.quicktime.player.movie : (Binary)Video
ID : 2
Format : Digital Video
Codec ID : dvc
Duration : 10s 877ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Original display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:1:1
Scan type : Interlaced
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Stream size : 37.3 MiB (93%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=manual / wb mode=automatic / white balance= / fcm=manual focus
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:38:59
Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:40:34Audio #1
ID : 1
Format : lpcm
Codec ID : lpcm
Duration : 10s 877ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 2 048 Kbps
Channel(s) : 3 channels
Sampling rate : 1 Hz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 2.66 MiB (7%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:38:59
Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:40:34Audio #2
ID : 2-0
Format : PCM
Muxing mode : Digital Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 10s 877ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
Resolution : 12 bits
Video delay : 666ms
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)Audio #3
ID : 2-1
Format : PCM
Muxing mode : Digital Video
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 10s 877ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
Resolution : 12 bits
Video delay : 666ms
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)Menu
ID : 3
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:38:59
Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-25 13:40:34
Bit rate mode : CBRAnthony
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Anthony Guest-scott
June 22, 2010 at 6:15 pm in reply to: simultaneous 4-channel DV audio capture: change over time and reasonThanks, Rafael.
Yes. The audio options offered in the Capture Preset Editor allow for these options for Input (from a DV Audio device):
-First 2 channels
-Second 2 channels
-Mix 4 channelsAnd these for Format:
-48.000 kHz 16-bit 2 chan
-44.100 kHz 16-bit 2 chan
-32.000 kHz 16-bit 2-chanSo this interface allows one, leaving aside the question of resolution for the moment, to capture all 4 channels of audio in two separate passes, or mixed as stereo pair – but not 4 separate audio tracks in a single pass, which is what we’re after.
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Anthony Guest-scott
June 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm in reply to: simultaneous 4-channel DV audio capture: change over time and reasonWe are capturing MiniDV tapes from the Sony DVCAM/HDV deck through Firewire directly into the CPU of the MacPro, so there is no other hardware component in the chain.
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Anthony Guest-scott
June 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm in reply to: simultaneous 4-channel DV audio capture: change over time and reasonThanks, Mark.
I have read this before, but I must confess that I don’t quite understand why it would be a limitation of Firewire. I understood Firewire to be simply a vehicle for transporting data as 1’s and 0’s from one component to another. Is there some way this data is output from devices or packaged that would cause it to be limited to transporting a certain number of audio tracks?
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