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  • Andy Richards

    July 14, 2007 at 1:19 pm in reply to: War of the Worlds, Old Fogies vs. Young Idiots

    I’m not going to take the bait on this one. Some people work on big productions and some on smaller ones. I have nothing against unions, just lazy people and especially lazy people using their union as their excuse for being lazy. And no I don’t want to work for 20 hours in a row for a sweatshop producer. ‘Nuf said?

  • Andy Richards

    July 13, 2007 at 6:04 pm in reply to: War of the Worlds, Old Fogies vs. Young Idiots

    I don’t think we have a disagreement here. Just talking about different parts of the process and different types of jobs. I’m all for experience. Remember I’m the one who wants the guy hanging the 10k over my head to know what the safety chain is for. 😉

    Not exactly off topic to say that this discussion is reminding me of a couple of guys I used to work with who as they got over 50 or so left the business because they said the day to day physical stuff was getting to them. The lucky one now produces and edits video for a government agency. I believe the other one is doing something unrelated. Most of the time it’s hard to say who the smarter one is.

  • Andy Richards

    July 13, 2007 at 4:58 pm in reply to: War of the Worlds, Old Fogies vs. Young Idiots

    David:
    Yes, presupposition can be a dangerous and unfair thing. Unfortunately the example I used was someone my age or younger. Bad attitudes can come in all ages and even though I wasn’t the one hiring for that particular shoot I suppose the fact that when hiring has been my choice, I have chosen to not work with that guy again. Returning to my original point which I guess wasn’t clear, when I need experience that’s what I try to get. But when I need someone to get all the gear from the truck, set-up and lamp all the stands and get everyting powered why should I pay more for experience? It is not age descrimination even if it may work out that way.

  • Andy Richards

    July 13, 2007 at 1:25 pm in reply to: War of the Worlds, Old Fogies vs. Young Idiots

    We get it already. Some of you over 50 guys are starting to feel the pressure of Gen Y willing to do your job for half what you’re used to being paid. Speaking as someone in mid forties does that mean I should feel threatened too? Or should I make G**damn sure that I am doing things that the recent college graduates can’t?
    No body has said this, so I might as well. ‘Young and Hungry’ probably means cheap, but it also means willing to work hard and bring a lot of energy to the job. I’ve been on shoots where a crew member said that the union rules say that he was overdue for a break and was taking it at this particular time. That’s not what I want to hear when I’ve re-set for the 10th take on a difficult shot and all I want to do is get it. That’s where I want young and hungry over experienced anytime. Do I want young and hungry hanging the 10k light overtop of where I’m setting up? Probably not, but I do want him unloading the truck in a fraction of the time it takes a clock watcher.
    Either here or somewhere else I think someone was also bringing PA jobs into this. Isn’t the PA job always considered the entry level position where if someone is not an intern they are at least doing it for minimal pay just for the chance to watch and learn? So I don’t see how looking for a young and hungry PA any different than looking for a DP with a good eye. Both are appropriate.

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