Andy Patterson
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[Robin S. Kurz] ”
[Oliver Peters] “FCPX currently has a HUGE bug in that it constantly loses UI focus.”Erm… HUGE?? A “show-stopper”??! Not the least bit hyperbolic, no. ????
If you want a REAL “showstopper”? Try something like the “flashing timeline thumbnails” bug in Premiere, that actually stopped your show. And it went on for over two years! What the… Though I’m not even sure it’s actually been fixed yet, I just haven’t seen mention of it in a while, so it could even be three years running. I can’t think of a single bug in X, certainly not of that magnitude that survived any where near that long, sorry.”
Please screen capture this bug that brings Premiere Pro to it’s knees. I have been using Premiere Pro for over 10 years and I have no clue what you are talking about. Could it be OS X instead of Premiere Pro since I don’t experience this on the PC side?
I find your response rather odd. If someone in the Premiere Pro forum has a problem or bug with Premiere I don’t ever point out the faults of FCPX. What good would that do? Would it not be best to help find a solution for FCPX (if one exists) rather than bad mouth Premiere Pro?
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[Robin S. Kurz] “BUT, for me, the real irony in the whole test is that it doesn’t in fact show how horribly underpowered the MP is, but rather how horribly optimized (not!) Adobe software is. Because I can in fact do the exact same operation this “speed test” does in Affinity Photo… guess in what amount of time? Right, in REALTIME. Oops. The “performance discrepancy” theme that unfortunately runs the gamut with Adobe apps, with very few exceptions. And yes, the results of the image are absolutely identical. No cutting corners in terms of quality or what not on Affinity’s part, sorry to say.”
Your inept logic is why Apple is loosing some of it’s creative customers to MS. Having said that what is your point? Are you saying the AMD computer could not make use of Affinity Photo? The issue is CPU performance not software. Having said that a lot of People do like the Adobe Software the same way you like FCPX. Speed and price are not everything are they? There are very cheap editing software programs for the PCs that can make use of Intel’s Quick Sync. In fact they did it before FCPX. If some of these programs that are $49.99 can render 15% faster than FCPX on the same specs you are not going to ditch FCPX for the $49.99 software are you? You are not going to say FCPX is to expensive and has out dated code. Am I correct?
[Robin S. Kurz] “So before anyone get themselves in a bunch about how horrible their hardware is, they might actually try using software that isn’t stuck in the 90’s code-wise first? ????”
Apple cannot even come close to Adobe’s offerings. Nor can anyone else for that matter.
[Robin S. Kurz] “Oh… and never mind that comparing the two in terms of overall specs (and therefore price) is a bad joke to begin with and just classic click-bait for the sake of unadulterated confirmation bias for the adobePC trolls of the world. Yet another wet dream in their “completely unbiased” ???? world.”
Trolls of the world? Unadulterated confirmation bias? You make it clear that you hate Adobe and love Apple. Someone posted about AMD’s new CPU being a better option for some people and you have to use it to bad mouth Adobe. Having said that your response should be “Apple needs to bring their A-Game with the new Mac Pro and iMac. We should have more options”. Have you even bothered to think FCPX might perform better with the Ryzen 1700 CPU for $300.00 as opposed to a $1500.00 Xeon CPU? You are way to eager to criticize Adobe when Apple should be criticized as well.
For the record if HP only sold AMD CPUs in their computers I am sure they would get criticized for it. If Dell only sold Intel chips in their computers I am sure they would get criticism as well. What if Apple only sold Intel Chips in there OS X computers? Some people believe Apple is above criticism. I say get real!
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[Lance Bachelder] “Apple always seems to go the expensive is better route. You can build a screaming 8 core AMD workstation right now for under 2 grand. i7 or Ryzen iMac or Mac Pro built around a GTX 1080 or whatever AMD comes out next with would be awesome.”
I made mentioned of AMD’s Ryzen months ago.
[Lance Bachelder] ” But wasting money on ECC RAM and XEON CPU’s and Quadro GPU’s is just stooopid.”
I tend to agree. I can see it as an option but not the only option. Perhaps Intel will start to lower the price of their CPUs. Perhaps the six core Coffee Lake will come in at $360.00 to be competitive. If not a lot of people might switch to AMD. Having said that there is one down side to AMD but that could change in another 7-8 months.
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[Walter Soyka] “[andy patterson] “Having said that talking about cell phone CPUs does not help hide the fact that the Apple computers are still running a Windows 95 paradigm in the year 2017. That is what “see my point” was referring to. Do you finally see my point this time?”
I don’t see your point. What’s wrong with the macOS UI paradigm?”
Windows 3.0 and the Mac OS 6 looked similar. One could say they had a similar paradigm. Windows 95 launched and introduced the Taskbar. Apple opted to leave the menubar and ad the Dock to keep up with the taskbar. Keep in mind several Linux OS vendors also copied the Windows 95 paradigm. The Windows 95 paradigm is still used by Apple today. It is a good paradigm for desktop computers with a keyboard and mouse. For small 10″ tablets it does not work that well. Apple has decide to keep OS X a Windows 95 type OS and allow iOS to operate on mobile touch screen devices. I know Apple was probably hoping desktop computers would be a thing of the past by 2017 and everyone would be using an iPad for everything. No need to revamp OS X. Microsoft knew desktops and tablets would both be used in 2017. MS also knew 64 bit Intel Chips would be inside of the tablets. MS was not going to make two operating system. MS designed Windows 8 to operate in two different modes. Keep in mind Windows had touch screen support prior to Windows 8 but not the Metro GUI. The Windows 95 desktop paradigm will work OK with touch screen monitors that 24″ or bigger. The Dock and Taskbar can be cool but on an 11″ touch screen tablet not so much. The Windows 95 paradigm still works great and the Taskbar can do some cool things. The OS X Dock works fine for desktop computers but in the year 2017 Apple’s OS X needs to be revamped. I would not want MS to have two different operating systems would you? I am also glad MS is always trying to improve the touch screens capabilities. I am not a fan of All In One systems but the Surface Studio with the Surface Dial got my attention.
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[Scott Thomas] “I basically said that “cellphone” CPUs are what are are in vogue now, and their development is bringing them very close to Intel’s desktop offerings. You are the one who said you would “complain” about them if offered in a Surface. You must have liked Surface RT.
Also, the ARM processor started out as a desktop CPU. ARM powered the Acorn Archimedes.”
I am aware of the Surface RT but MS also offered the Surface Pro with an i7. I would be upset if in the year 2017 the Surface Pro was not available with an i7 and incapable of running Windows 10 (64 bit version). Apple does not offer OS X on the iPad or the iPad pro nor does Apple offer the i7 CPU. That is not to say the iPad’s CPU doesn’t work but the 6 core Coffee Lake CPUs will be here soon.
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[Scott Thomas] “[andy patterson] “See my point?”
You speak derisively of “phone” CPUs, but they are on what much of the industry is focused right now. Intel sold off their ARM chip license and designs many years ago, and have recently reacquired an ARM license. It’s said that Intel has lost billions of dollars by not being in that space. Mobile is where the growth is.”
There is nothing wrong with cell phone CPUs nor did I say there was. You are using a strawman. Having said that cell pone CPUs get better and better quicker than computer CPUs because people get incentives to buy new phones when their contract ends. In another five years the cell phone CPU and computer CPUs may use the same chip. As of now the iPad does not have the best performing CPU. It works OK for a mobile OS. Having said that talking about cell phone CPUs does not help hide the fact that the Apple computers are still running a Windows 95 paradigm in the year 2017. That is what “see my point” was referring to.
Do you finally see my point this time?
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[Steve Connor] “Perhaps we should start calling people “Advocates” instead?”
You can call them whatever you want. The bottom line is there are Apple users that will not say anything negative about Apple and even get upset when you post honest criticism. I admit Adobe’s CC sucks compared to the old CS paradigm. I criticized Adobe all the time in these forums.
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[Steve Connor] “[andy patterson] “The information is very easy to find on the internet. I could have been lazy and not bothered to look for the solution. Those that don’t bother to look are really just looking for an excuse to bad mouth Windows. I would like it to be easier to stop the updates but in the year 2017 to complain about an issues that doesn’t really exist seems odd to me. If you need help with FCPX, BMD or even AJA what do you do? You find the solution online. Why do you think these forums are here. Is this just a place for you to rant or do you ask for advise and give advise? I try to help on the Premiere Pro forums when I can.
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The one to bring balance to the forum he is ☺
“If OS X had touch screen support and worked on the iPad with a core i7 CPU and the Surface Pro used a cellphone CPU and a mobile OS instead of Windows 10 64 bit I would complain about it. See my point? Apple does not have to be innovative when they have fanboyism and brand loyalty. Other companies have to worry about the competition : )
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[Scott Thomas] “[andy patterson] “I was worried about Windows 10 myself but you can easily stop the Windows updates”
Sure, they’re easy if you are familiar with “services”, but for the fact they are default, they are user hostile. There are many things I dislike in MacOS, but I’ve never been tricked into doing a system update.
You make it sound like there’s an office on a lower level at Microsoft with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard” that has the info I need to stop these incursions.”
The information is very easy to find on the internet. I could have been lazy and not bothered to look for the solution. Those that don’t bother to look are really just looking for an excuse to bad mouth Windows. I would like it to be easier to stop the updates but in the year 2017 to complain about an issues that doesn’t really exist seems odd to me. If you need help with FCPX, BMD or even AJA what do you do? You find the solution online. Why do you think these forums are here. Is this just a place for you to rant or do you ask for advise and give advise? I try to help on the Premiere Pro forums when I can.
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[Oliver Peters] “[andy patterson] “Keep in mind OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm in a world of mobile devices and touch screens. For the record Windows XP and even Windows 7 use a Windows 95 paradigm as well but Windows 8 changed everything.”
Care to clarify what you mean by that?”
I thought it was obvious but I guess not. Windows 3.0 and the Mac OS 6 looked similar. One could say they had a similar paradigm. Windows 95 launched and introduced the Taskbar. Apple opted to leave the menubar and ad the Dock to keep up with the taskbar. That paradigm is still used by Apple today. It is a good paradigm for desktop computers with a keyboard and mouse. For small10″ tablets it does not work that well. Apple has decide to keep OS X a Windows 95 type OS and allow iOS to operate on mobile touch screen devices. Microsoft was not going to make two operating system. MS designed Windows 8 to operate in two different modes. Keep in mind Windows had touch screen support prior to Windows 8 but not the Metro GUI. The Windows 95 desktop paradigm will work with touch screen monitors that 24″ or bigger. The Dock and Taskbar can be cool but on an 11″ touch screen tablet not so much. The Windows 95 paradigm still works great and the Taskbar can do some cool things. The video link below shows the Windows 7 taskbar does do a few things better than Windows 10 taskbar.
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