Andrew Kimery
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[Scott Witthaus] “I mean, outside of broadcast, where does this exist (not counting asst. editor tasks)?”
Not to state the obvious, but anywhere where there are multiple editors working off of shared storage you have opportunities for collaborative workflows to be beneficial. ????
I’ve probably split the last 18yrs fairly evenly between broadcast and new/streaming media and broadcast-style workflows certainly include larger new media facilities/divisions. The same types of problems need to be solved and the biggest differences are typically budgets and delivering to streaming/hosting services instead of cable/sat/OTA. I think multi-editor situations will only grow as falling prices and improving tech continue to make collaborative workflows more affordable and more approachable.
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[Bob Zelin] “why do they care what people want to stick on the computer, and why are they making it so difficult, after all this time ?
“It’s in Apples DNA. Jobs never wanted to release anything but a sealed box, computing appliance and technology (and consumer habits) over the past 5-10 years have finally gotten to the point where doing just that is commercially viable.
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I agree having a presence on social media is important, but I think a website (with a non-spammy mailing list) is imperative because it will always allow the business owner to control their own message/marketing to customers directly without becoming beholden to social media middle men. Going with Facebook and Yelp only unfortunately means Peter’s customers are primarily Facebook and Yelp customers which Peter may or many not be granted continued access to depending on the whims (or demise) of Facebook and Yelp.
Last year the popular web comic The Oatmeal had a strip about this very thing.
https://www.geekwire.com/2017/oatmeal-creator-rips-facebook-comic-facebook-asks-wants-boost-post/ -
[Bob Zelin] “You have to do whatever it takes – especially in a competitive industry like we are in. “
Yet here, on the COW, people help the competition every day. Mentors help their future competition everyday. People posting How To and DIY videos/blogs help their competition every day. Other editors have helped me get work and I’ve helped other editors get work.
The picture you paint is only a one part of the whole. The world, and the industry, is changing Bob and you’ve become the inflexible dinosaur you warned against a decade ago.
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Once again for people not paying attention:
1. The McBride’s interns are NOT the ones suing. A former employ is suing because he thinks he was fired in retaliation for reporting the McBride’s alleged unlawful business practices to the Dept. of Labor.
2. Unpaid internships are a very specific thing codified in Federal and/or State law. Just because someone calls their opening an “internship” doesn’t mean what they are doing is actually legal. It’s no different than full time employees being illegally classified as contractors so the employer can save money on overhead.
3. People shouldn’t be against the idea that employees should be properly compensated for their work.
[Kylee Peña] “I’m replying here for all the younger people who lurk the forums and think that certain aspects of this industry are impossible and unchanging. Not true — lots of us are out here making things better than we experienced them.”
Agreed 100%.
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[Mark Suszko] “I think there’s more people that are in sympathy with Bob than not, it’s just a matter of degree. I think we basically all would agree that production interns do a lot of work for little recognition, with the implied social contract that they will get *something* back out of the transaction. “
I agree that that’s the typical industry POV on interns, and I think it’s part of the problem. There is no implied social contract as unpaid internships are a matter of law. It’s like saying there’s an implied social contract that when I go shopping that the store will get *something* back in exchange for all of the products I loaded into my shopping cart. ????
Below is the federal legal test of what constitutes an unpaid internship:
1. The internship, even though it includes actual operation of the facilities of the employer, is similar to training which would be given in an educational environment;
2. The internship experience is for the benefit of the intern;
3. The intern does not displace regular employees, but works under close supervision of existing staff;
4. The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded;
5. The intern is not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the internship; and
6. The employer and the intern understand that the intern is not entitled to wages for the time spent in the internship.
The term “internship” got hijacked because saying “Hey, I need you to work for me 40hrs a week for no pay” doesn’t sound appealing where as “internship” has an air of legitimacy to it. If someone needs grunt work done then just put out an ad that says “need grunt work done, pay is minimum wage’.
But there is good news to everyone that wants people to work for them but doesn’t want to pay them any money, in 2018 the Dept. of Labor issued new guidelines about internships that are much more relaxed and flexible than the previous rules which I listed above.
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The McBride’s aren’t being sued by former interns. They are being sued by a former employee that claims his termination was retaliatory because he reported the McBride’s illegally run internship program to the Department of Labor.
Anyway, don’t we have endless threads complaining that people working for low ball offers are doing themselves a grave disservice, while also poisoning the well for the rest of us, yet here you are *defending* low-ball, grinder employers that are violating labor law? Just because you got screwed at one point you think everyone should get screwed as a matter of course? The Stockholm Syndrome is strong in this one…
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Don’t give in, and feel free to mention the following (or something similar) to the client.
[Greg Ball] “He wants to use the clip that’s readily available to anyone who uses YouTube. “
Books are readily available at the Library but that doesn’t mean one can plagiarize them.
[Greg Ball] “We are not selling the video and instead using it for training.”
Unless you have explicit permission to use it from the rightful copyright owner you don’t have permission to use it.*
[Greg Ball] “There is no mention of copyright in the video…”
Copyright is inherent once a work has been created. Registering it, putting a copyright notice on it, etc., are just ways for the owner to help protect/defend their copyright if it ever comes into dispute.
*Fair Use exceptions are so limited and case specific that unless you want to get lawyers involved just work under the premise that you can’t use it without explicit permission from the rightful copyright holder.
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[Tony West] “He said “easiest to use” iMovie is “easier” to use than Resolve”;)
Fair point. It should at least get an honorable mention though! haha
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Why do I get the feeling that not everyone watched the video…
On the free side I use WordPress, Wunderlist, YouTube, MPEG Stream clip, Omni Disksweeper, Slack, Evernote, Trello, Open Office, WeTransfer, etc., but I also pay for things like Dropbox, Frame.io, Vimeo, WeTransfer (for big files), WordPress plugins/themes, so it’s certainly a horses for courses thing. Blender has been around for 20yrs yet that hasn’t killed the market for 3D software, and I’m still waiting for the late 90s geek prediction that Linux will take over the desktop space. ????
Competition has many facets; price, perceived value, current market conditions, etc.,
Also, how is Resolve not the #1 free thing on his list? 😉