[Andrew Corneles]

[eric pautsch] ” The guy would be singing a different tune if he actually had deadlines and clients who’s work needs to be finished on a piece of software which is suddenly no longer supported or sold.”

Agreed wholeheartedly. (And I’d like to add is still 32 bit)

He and several others that are quoted regularly
on here are with all due respect, out of touch.

I’m not going to trust any of the “professional” apple shills, sorry.

I look at it like this; There’s a reason you won’t find DEA agents
arguing that the war on drugs is BS, cause that’s how they keep
their families fed. Same thing with a lot of these trainers…

How can they badmouth the product that they write training for?

[Andrew Corneles]

I’ve been thinking about apple being the EE for a while, not so much in terms of Pro Apps, but just in general – I’ve witnessed the company transition from making tools for creatives to use,
to making tools to sell micro transactions (and make huge profits).

I’m not going to pass judgment on them morally, but I do think
that alienating their true “pro” base (which has been slowly
jumping ship, even before this XFCP debacle) will eventually
destroy the relationship that originally made mac cool and different,
and put them on a different level socially and politically
in the eyes of their customers.

I in the past few years, seeing all of Apple’s interesting
choices when it comes to openness and business dealings – and
being around people that idolize their products – I have wondered
what everyone would think if Microsoft’s made the same moves
Apple has made….

Most people would be calling for anti-trust hearings,
class action lawsuits, etc – but Apple’s ingrained “coolness”
gave them a lot of leeway to operate.

I personally kindof felt it was over when one day on my home PC,
i went to download quicktime player, and Apple mandated that
I install iTunes…. I don’t know the date, but some may remember
that.

I hold out no hope that apple is going to revamp XFCP to be anything
more than what it is today.

I’ve been giving AAPL the benefit of the doubt when it comes
to their PRO suite for MANY years, hoping that they would do the right
thing, and make FCP 8 64bit (as we’ve bought their macpro’s to
slide our AJA and BM solutions into, even as the FCS was 32 bit).

All of the apologists tout how long they’ve worked on it,
that we should give them time to give us back the things we need.

Make no mistake, AAPL is very deliberate in their direction.
This program is not FCP, it is iMovie Pro. It is in its DNA.

We have essentially been using the same program since 2004.
They’ve had enough time to make FCP 64 bit. (I think most of us
would have settled for FCP 7 64bit, in fact I think they owe us that
still)

I just can’t believe people will argue that rebadging and updating
iMovie is anything more than the end game of creating a huge
professional market, bringing in the top people to push it
in the industry, and then using the nameplate to sell millions of
copies at $300 a pop to every apple zealot that has a dslr or what have you.

[Andrew Corneles]

nicedissolve.com seems to be pretty red-centric, doesn’t the lack of native r3d support give you a little pause for defense?

[Andrew Corneles]

Amen to leaving the platform, at this point i’m wondering if they’ll stop making mac pro’s altogether. this could definitely start the process.

[Andrew Corneles]

i just wish that we had something to do with the afterhours AAPL drop.

[Andrew Corneles]

check it for yourself chris instead of just responding to people telling the truth. The REVIEWS are gone. the counter remains.

[Andrew Corneles]

I had no plans to switch until yesterday. I’ve lost
countless hours to the render bar, when FCP has not
been updated to keep up with the uber expensive hardware
that we run it on…

At this point I think lots of us are just jumping ship
because we feel (rightfully so, we’re pretty much
editing with fcp4) that they’ve had more than enough
time to deliver a GREAT pro app.

I remember when I thought for sure that Snow Leopard was
going to bring some huge FCS update, and bring us into
64 bit use-all-the-memory-you-can world….

that never happened.

By the looks of things – you might be waiting a loooong time
until they add all the pro features they’ve scalped from fcp.

As a professional, I just can’t justify the lack of productivity
by using a 32bit system until they may or may not bequeath us
with what we desire and need to compete with other offerings.

They know exactly what they’ve done with this release, and
personally it’s a bit upsetting to think of the decade
we;ve been using FCP and helping create that user base and
respect for the program (despite its shortcomings) has
been parlayed into a money grab for the iSheeple / prosumers.

The name recognition will sell the app to millions, most likely,
while the installed “pro” base is just told to go punch sand.

Unfortunately this has been cupertino’s MO since the dawn of the ipod.

[Andrew Corneles]

I haven’t heard anything officially from apple, this article cherry picks a bunch of the “positive” aspects.

Still naysaying.

I guess we’ll all just have to agree to disagree- some of us have been
waiting patiently to use all of our expensive processors, in the meantime
investing heavily in monitoring solutions and capture devices that are
currently worthless to FCPX.

I guess I just expected more, seeing as how we’re still technically
working with Final Cut 4, and people are defending one of the most wealthy
corporations’ intentions, and that we should WAIT to see what they do, that
they’re “doing their best” etc.

Avid and PP have less capital, and yet have made much larger strides
in tech, FASTER, while keeping the PRO aspects in tact.

Lots of us have been WAITING for 4-5 years for a serious rewrite.

I (we) can’t just sit by and hope that apple decides to throw us a bone –
seeing as how they’ve cut support and sales for most of their other
pro apps, one by one.

The writing seems to be pretty well plastered to the wall.

Repackaging iMovie just doesn’t really sit well with me, and obviously lots of other pro’s.

[Andrew Corneles]

They bragged about broadcast and post facility NLE market share at the event where FCP X was announced. Had Apple not been interested in the pro market in the long run, they wouldn’t have bothered with a long and no doubt expensive rewrite of Final Cut in the first place.

I hate to say anything to one person specifically, but you really have been coming out against people that are upset –
This is NOT an expensive rewrite of Final Cut. it is iMovie Pro.
Please open up iMovie and then FCPx, and tell us how different it is.

This program is not “Final Cut”, it WILL NOT open legacy projects.
to defend this release is just ridiculous. they have had 4+ years to overhaul FCP and they didn’t do it. Maybe this will be great for you,
but to come out in every thread and argue with people that are wondering what the hell apple is thinking about this, or dare to say they’re leaving a company (that has LITERALLY ended support for their livelyhood FCPServer, COLOR, DVDSP, and FINAL CUT ) is just silly.

[Andrew Corneles]

I think I speak for many people that have been watching other editing
platforms make leaps and bounds over final cut pro 6.9999, and waiting
for 4 years for apple to show their hand.

Now that I know, I’ll be transitioning to pp55 or MC. At least I’ll
be able to open my fcp projects in one of those.

I’m not panicking or freaking out, the sky isn’t falling, but I’m also
not going to validate apple’s BS. We’ve lost out on enough time rendering
and re-rendering with a program that couldn’t use the power or the
machines apple was selling us. And Xfcp is just going to convert everything,
not just flow through a timeline ala pp.

After fcp “7” I had a feeling something big was coming – I was just hoping
it would be real competition to PPro.

XFCP is great for single person shops that don’t have to do real
broadcast work. it is TRULY iMovie pro. Anyone that argues differently
is just not paying attention.