[Andi No]

Hi , thanx for replying.
That’s just an example , i took a short clip just to do some test, i wonder why that clip is getting lower data rate after i render out from FCP where i don’t have any option / choice to keep the rate as hight as the original? is it normal ?

the actual case is not that simple, i just make some experiment. The real problem i want to remove pulldown 3:2 from 29.97 to 23.98, i tried it using compressor, yes… i got my 23.98 clip without problem , the only problem is when i checked in qt player, the data rate become half of the original, so something has been reduced maybe ? color information or what so ever , i haven’t found out yet. This kind of fact , make me want to do some test from FCP , i just want to see if there’ll be something similiar when i just do nothing but straight render out from fcp without any conversion, the result is surprising, it did reduce the data rate like compressor did. I don’t have any idea ….. If someone can get it clear, i’ll be happy 🙂

Btw, i’ve just done another test, i tried to do the same test using prores, and this time data rate is not reduced , so must be something about the ‘xdcam’.

Thanx.
Andi

[Andi No]

FYI, i also try to reverse telecine using cinema tool via FCP, tools > cinema tool reverse telecine… But again that menu is not activated, so i couldn’t select it. The codec is : XDCAM HD422 1080i60 (1920×1080) .

thanx

[Andi No]

Thanx Matt, i’ve been trying Cinema tool but have a bit problem. The ‘reverse telecine’ button at the bottom is always in ‘disabled’ mode. So there’s no way i can convert coz i couldn’t press that button for some unknown reason. Anyway still trying to figure out ……..

About the the ‘IN’ point, you’re right and i didn’t say it will match perfectly , as i clearly mention in my previous post, there will be sliding couple of frames , like 2 to 5 frames. So mapping frames will be like :

1->1 (under frame 5 there will be no shifting, so no fix to be done)
4->5
12->15
16->20
20->25
and 24->30 as well as 23.97 -> 29.98 etc

The good news, there some app which allow u to do some batch processing , like read the TC , check the frame number, then shift the clip to left based on that frame info. So it will auto adjust the IN point. The bad new , that app need u to render :). Or u can just manually do 2 or 5 shifting to fix the IN point in FCP directly. That way you can continue work by fix that couple predictable frames sliding instead of working from scratch which will spend more working days.

Thanx
Andi

[Andi No]

btw does anyone know any other app on mac that can do removing pulldown 29 to 24 and got perfect result ? I tried compressor but max data rate is at 50mb/s , i can’t go beyond. Any idea or suggestion ?

Thanx

[Andi No]

Thanx for replying guyz, i’ve managed to edit without fully re-edit from scratch ( or match framing). So i took the footage to any app that can remove pulldown but preserving the IN timecode. As lonng as the frame digit didn’t exceed 23, than i can get the same inpoint timecode. In my case i use discreet smoke on mac to remove pulldown and it has feature to keep the inpoint tc. So now my clips got converted back to original 24fps using the 29.97’s timecode ( i’ve just found out that it was originally shot on 24, then the nano card add pulldown to 29.97)

So when bring back to FCP, duplicate the timeline but now set fps to 24. i ‘force’ reconnect it. Forcing means like ignoring anything. FCP will spit out error msg, about tape name , tc bla bla…. but i just ignore it and force reconnect. The result i got my edit on position with a slight drift , sometime 2 frame ,but mostly only 1 frame. From this starter i can just do ‘better’ re-edit instead doing all over from scratch. FYI when duplicating fcp timeline from 29 to 24, some clip which has speed effect will be cut out 1 frame (blank) so need to be fixed later.

Got no time to do further test, i’m in a sick deadline. So be back later.

thanx a lot.
Andi~

[Andi No]

HI Nick , thanx for replying, i’ve experienced this since version 6. Is 7 got this bug fixed already? i don’t have 7 , so i can’t test it. Thanx.