Aindreas Gallagher
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm in reply to: Call me crazy if you want… but I know an imminent extinction when I see one. 🙂Amen to that – seriously tho – it really looks good doesn’t it?
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as an aside there chris – how do you find PPro 7 from what you’ve seen?
all X bashing stuff aside – 7 looks pretty seriously good doesn’t it?
I’ve watched about every demo vid, and I genuinely find I’m rather madly keen to get my hands on the thing?
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I would bet my last dollar that the differentiation in software features re-sets at the time of the next suite iteration paid update.
It actually makes sense – why would adobe just go giving me feature updates when its not known if I’m going to plunk down for the next version?
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yes of course! – We will get exactly the same software items within the production bundle of 7 as are provided to cloud subscribers when it releases.
the point is that there will be some degree of continuous feature cloud updates throughout the year – adobe will augment the master collection for subscribers throughout the 12 months – I mean, as far as their resources stretch, but then we will get whatever has built up, along with the new 8 features up as a full paid pitstop upgrade in 12 months time from the release of 7 when adobe formally overhaul the suite to 8. then we are all more or less identical again.
seriously – don’t over think it – adobe don’t have infinite resources anyway – it’s not like they’re going to be cranking out stereoscopic editing in three months.
If you ignore in your head the notion that creativecloud ever happened – you are going to be on the exact same timeline that you ever were.
Many client corporations may never go onto the cloud – for accounting and deprecation reasons –
I mean, adobe are about to land production editing here – they are not going to dis-enfranchise license holders, it just works a little differently to the cloud.
Different intervals is all.It’s all good.
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I know! man, I could kiss adobe, I really could. they completely landed it.
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the only thing is that David Roth Weiss stepped into the debate forum and said – like he really basically knew – that adobe were going direct to 7.
by the by, are you staying license or going cloud yourself? I can’t make up my mind.
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nah – seriously mate – I really, really don’t see apple as being in any kind of mood to do that.
It would be hard to quantify how staggeringly unpopular that would be with their pro-creative base. Who are feeling iffy about apple as it stands.Adobe on OSX underpins quite a lot of apple hardware sales, also its notable that apple went nvidia for all the new hardware – its hard not to see that as a reaction to the user base who desperately wanted to get on the cuda train – although adobe have apparently massively increased (tripled) the supported card base across cuda and opencl.
And if you really want to get in the weeds, the kind of fundamental editing software behaviour we’re talking about here – i’m not so sure apple hold any extant patents – at all – given that the FCP software was a buy in from macromedia, that was later sold lock stock and barrel to adobe. Apple didn’t intellectually originate the thing.
at all.sooo seriously – lets all just nicely chill and really enjoy the fact that adobe have worked like maniacs and knocked this a mile out of the park for us, and we can all shift quite happily off FCP7 now. We’re gold.
I could edit in that thing tomorrow. I rather seriously want to. The timeline is yummy, the media management is aces, PRORES and DNX are native intermediate encode decode codecs, I’m dropping speedgrade looks on adjustment layers, I know the keyframing backwards from AE, the ability to dive into other projects in use is potentially crazily useful in a group workflow.
Its pure win people. Win in all directions as far as the eye can see.
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there’s a basic legal issue with feature upgrades on traditional licenses. I think its kind of the same thing Apple had issue with on the old iOS updates to ipods where they had to introduce a nominal fee.
On the subscription service, Adobe are going to provide a different model of service, and you will get stuff a lot quicker. Bottom line, they want to make the platform attractive, and they have every right to do so. There have already been cloud exclusive features for photoshop to now.
Basically everyone has been re-assured that they can continue with perpetual licenses, with annual updates across the suite – and bug fixes as you go along.
With Cloud subscribers Adobe are free to treat the suite differently, and to provide features to cloud members as a subscriber base.
Bottom line, you will get your next major set of features 12 months after your last set. That is when you next sign a legal contract with adobe to purchase a paid suite software upgrade. Cloud subscribers are going to get features more often throughout the year, and maybe we won’t ever see all of them.
I don’t see that there is anything wrong with this. they are two fundamentally different models. What cloud subscribers gain in all the trimmings of the master collection, cloud portfolio hosting, rapid updates – they lose in terms of total ownership of the software.
What we lose in continuous feature feed – we gain in terms of not being on a direct debit from our bank.
Now that I know I have the option to continue my traditional, annual update perpetual license, that I know its there – I find I’m not exactly so sure which way I want to go – particularly seeing as how I can bulk purchase 12 months of the cloud subscription.
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cheers, caught that – freshDV are putting out lots of good stuff.
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of course not – don’t be silly.
the things being referred to were the ability to nudge clips up and down the timeline, or see a through edit. basic editing home comforts. Al was alluding to the fact that seeing as how they have tens of thousands of former FCP editors coming onboard, they wanted to take their feedback into account – feedback along the lines of “why can’t I option click the clip up and down please” and “why can’t I remove a through edit”.
no one is suing anyone for the provision of those features.
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