Aindreas Gallagher
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[James Sullivan] “Apple however can still build an edit suite from the silicon up. We just have to hate hard enough for them to do it our way.
To me Final Cut Pro X is still a single seat, straight to youtube, audio mixing nightmare. But if they cut out the stupid stuff and add some tags that stick at the finder level then I will be your uncle. Also the new coffee grinder™ is showing some promise. Just remember that Siri can read lips or we will all be floating in space.
“yep. that all sounds good to me.
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He’s a premiere man. Actually are you still lawrence? 6 I find a bit annoying, although I’m a pretty basic editor really.
I have strong, strong CC urges. almost jonesing at this point.
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got to love it. thank god harmon is back.
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yeah – lets not forget the real issue is I barely know what I’m talking about. haven’t worked a day in an avid shared environment for instance.
as to whether avid is the best approach – that is beyond me. although i wonder if it goes like churchill’s quote on democracy.
larry jordan did a long interview with an adobe dude about anywhere – he said that at one point they were allowing live simultaneous access to the same timeline. they thought it was kind of cool until they realised it was madness.I guess in a way the question maybe isn’t how its supposed to work as much as what is it supposed to do? you have concerns about the collaboration not interfering with functional archiving – so thats an issue – but I guess that would be what i would wonder – if avid isn’t the one and only answer, what essential functions describe a happy shared edit environment?
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[James Sullivan] “We have not even mentioned the idea of having Mavericks tags follow media into the world that FCPx creates. Jeremy is onto something with using metadata to really organize everything.
Why can’t I tag media before I even import it? “
not to rain on it – but would apple be likely to fundamentally structure freeform OSX finder object tags specifically for tied FCPX metadata integration within events?
It would want to be a trivial engineering pursuit wouldn’t it? given the user catchment? with no new revenue apparently now coming from current X users?what would be the rational reason for that effort?
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[Al LeVine] “Final Cut X doesn’t seem to work well with the RADIOPLAY -> ANIMATIC -> ANIMATION workflow.”
yeah, in as far as i was ever taught, I got taught the particulars of a radio edit for structure and timing? goes to quite a few things? more short form my way.
although the thing I’m at is at animatic stage at the mo. please god the client buys it.I’m not saying that you can’t in X (honestly) – but really and truly to god, all I want to see at the outset is a horizontal tracked timeline that contains clean, david lawrence style, universal time and logical vertical space to stack in.
that does it for me personally – it can go all kinds of places from there.
i’m not personally madly keen to initially meet secondary storylines, connected clips, auditions, roles and all the other zany kids.I can do without it.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Right, but Pr doesn’t have a central file conglomerate, such as a Library. So, as an archiver, you’d have to try and gather everyone’s disparate Pr Project files (and anything else you may need, like Dynamically linked Ae files, etc).
I don’t know how 3rd parties handle it, unfortunately.
“sorry – stupidly phrased – I meant adobe getting it done as third parties to the operating system they are working in – premiere basically affords near avid behaviour now whereby you can inspect another live premiere project in action, copy across sequences and footage items, with that premiere project viewable live in your media browser within your own running premiere app. as in – its not finder level avid bin open – but once in your own active copy of premiere, via the media browser, you have an awful lot of live access to other running premiere projects. you can inspect and copy from the entire hierarchy of another live running premiere project open on another machine – bin/folders, sequences movies stills etc. I think that doesn’t yet get talked about a ton?
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[Walter Soyka] “Jeremy, I agree with you. If collections are better than bins, then why wouldn’t collections be better than events?”
apple might feel that collections aren’t exactly the right kind of mental objects to operate as event/folder level objects – given they are explicitly tag collections. it feels a little threadbare to have them also operate as discrete transportable physical containers, given they actually represent metadata tags.
am i right there?
given apple have walked things back in a big way by creating a new super container with libraries, they might be inclined to reverse slowly.
Its hard on one level to see how they can completely remove the newly intermediate event object that contains meta data tag collections.but reading it, the problem is that library event sub-sets are far more legally islands now than they were when they were exposed as top level?
nothing like bullsh*tting software you rarely use. it is interesting tho.
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[Shane Ross] “And I still use COLOR too…”
the only part of me that cheered when FCP went down was the part that never bothered to learn Colour. I always felt bad not having learnt it.
cutting a brand film thing on 7 the last and next week.
six seasons and a movie for 7.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXqLCM0d0Os
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[Jeremy Garchow] “An Event corresponds to a folder in the Library, like this (see pictures):”
yarp, I’d read that events were pretty much alive and well in package contents alright – it feels like apple put a box around the whole thing, as opposed to negating all the originally coded event rules. although the fact the they are now walls within a library just feels weird reading it.
[Jeremy Garchow] “But even I have doubts on whether Apple will make an Avid like sharing environment.”
its an interesting question tho – If anyone can invoke OS level read only lock controls to late third parties on a first come first served basis for event folders within the package contents of a library – you’d have to figure its the person who wrote both the operating system and the application that produced the package. If apple did that then you’d basically have avid carry on right? As long as they provide visibility to the package content events for another FCPX user?
You’d wonder if they could implement the in app live view of other projects (fcp7 style) premiere has going within the media browser – that seems a long shot given they would have to build in the kind of app internal media browser they had in soundtrack pro and stuff? does motion still have that thing?
premiere, the rental scum, really is pretty cool that way in CC – the media browser functions as a comparable live view into an FCPX library where you can selectively pick up sequences and footage items. And i think they solved master clip stuff – although not sure.
how are adobe as third parties pulling that off anyway?
again though – if this app is intended as a come hither to very serious hardware, and 4K workflows, and it really is their poster boy for the tube,
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