Aindreas Gallagher
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you’d think they would have said. its not visible on any of the screens in the behind the scenes video either.
70 hours of rushes, 15 editors working simultaneously – you’d have to think that’s a job for Avid eh?
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I haven’t a clue really.
either way, apple need to generate substantive market visibility before the end of year – that’ll be year three ending in the cold – they’re not sitting in the wings of avid with FCP ten years ago.
this just is not that market. people are calling it this year – and no one is calling FCPX so far.FCPX can’t just sit there waiting for the world to somehow come to it. It’s not happening.
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who isn’t?
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it is about to get some deadly serious fans in the shape of six editors working iMacs on a warner brothers lot apparently. that could go a distance.
the issue is more the complete rejection of X by the FCP base? It’s nearly three years in, and most of the bigger places over here are six months past mouthing the word premiere.
In the end, Apple themselves decided to produce a system that has no continuation from FCP. Adobe ate that for supper, and they are likely going to win.even with the apple push (and four engineers working on it), X is probably vegas for OSX at this point.
really, really good audio plug-ins tho.
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[tony west] “I think there will be a return down the line. I just can’t see it going away.”
neither can I tbh. part of me wouldn’t mind at all getting dumped into an X job. It needs to start appearing this year realistically, if it doesn’t it almost has be toast. – I’m the only one I know across directors, shops, fellow editors etc. that actually has the thing paid for and playing with it – it’s really hard to overstate the absence in london, (or the bits of it that I understand) – its a basic issue –
if no one sees it, no one is going to start considering using it, and as it stands, if I start talking about 10.1, the dot, the library, you name it – the thing does not exist. people basically stare at you.
And 90% of those people were and are FCP. that’s kind of the take home. I really don’t think apple have fully internalised the level of rejection.
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[tony west] “I don’t know about over there but just seems like the trend is, give me the footage and I will cut it in MY suite.”
no sure absolutely – then bash away. doesn’t happen that often over here. a lot of my stuff is corpo and tends to be on site.
Although BBCWW are apparently going premiere and throwing anywhere into the mix too. bit down the line tho – but that will allow offsite editing pretty broadly if adobe can get it working with 10Mbs connections. even for people not willing to activate longterm subscriptions – 50/60 quid per gig to activate the edit system offsite is pretty cheap to access the anywhere system.
[tony west] “If that’s the case, (and it is with many) It doesn’t matter much to that editor what’s posted on a board in London, or anywhere else.”
It kind of does though – there is a penalty committing to FCPX that is unlike other edit systems – not least because every single person who goes through the months required to acclimatise says repeatedly that they feel uncomfortable and out of their flow using FCP classic, premiere or avid.
Given absolutely no jobs are posted requiring it, and there are none – the issue goes back to the primary problem: why do you get into the weeds with a completely non-standard edit system for no visible return?
an apple driven, massive publicity splash for a hundred million dollar film harnessing X might change that a bit tho eh?
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steve honestly – there never was a chance. apple effectively tried to create a crazy editing pyramid in the jungle. that we would all wander off to.
it was never going to happen. X isn’t an entrant to the current market.
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[Andrew Kimery] “That’s kinda the point is it not? When people talk about how much faster their process is using FCPX and question why others are still using FCP7 or clunky old, it-came-from-the-90’s Avid MC”
I’m getting existentially sartre style tired of people saying that X is a new form of three times the speed fun. that we somehow don’t get. Surely the point is that there are hundreds of thousands of editors who have extensively kicked the tires and walked away. That kind of explains the current scenario.
“Although over the past year the controversy surrounding FCP X has largely died down as the software has improved immensely, most editors still haven’t given it a fair shot and have either stuck with FCP 7, moved to Premiere Pro, or in some rare cases have gone back to Avid.”
https://noamkroll.com/fcp-x-just-got-its-big-break-on-a-100000000-studio-feature-how-will-this-change-the-face-of-post-production/its the not given it a fair shot part that has to stop – a lot of us have extensively tested it. The idea that we should undergo some six month trip into the jungle where we forget every other editing system, all the understood rationale, and emerge from the brush singing FCPX is completely ludicrous.
that was never going to happen.
gigantic numbers of reasoned people, FCP people for god’s sake, from experience, do not agree with it as an editor system.
I’m no great shakes but I personally don’t agree with it.
it is not the fcp of ten years ago in the wings waiting to swoop in. it just isn’t. There isn’t a single bloody job in london for it. And london is heaving with editing jobs across all levels.
the problem is that it is what it is. it is very unlikely that there are the engineering resources available to radically reshape it, and ginormous numbers of editors have near completely written it off. hundred million dollar movie or no.there is no seismic shift coming. it’s too esoteric a system. And it just took them a year to come up with a library container. FCPX relative to any major market share shot its bolt with 10.1
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[Franz Bieberkopf] ” where this all leads in the next five years, though.”
you’d be a bit curious alright. you’d have to think apple have a roadmap thing.
off the 30th, it’s weird to read all the contemporaneous reviews for the last decade’s worth of apple products in context now. virtually all the reviews are shot to hell in hindsight.
it’s the outright physical miniaturisation of the thing that would strike you. that has to have at least some implications right?
as in clients habitually having some class of set spare monitors on hand in the future. given they are now bigger than the talent supplied workstation.
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would you buy one yourself franz? I just posted my remaining kidney to the inland revenue so am an interested onlooker.
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