Aindreas Gallagher
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all the serious to god real editing stuff bill cites was BBC avid gandalfs – all the sports pres location specific stuff was FCP7 – about twenty or thirty bods (by the facebook group) operating under LOCOG – FCP7 on lion. graphics via pixelmator (shockingly respectable photo editor that)
no fpcx afaik.
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between 6 and 9 am? with 10 hours of footage? I’m making favourites and ranges now? with what? friday’s pot roast? my bare hands?
give me nicely arranged spatial bins on a second monitor and a viewer thank you.(or as herb points out, and as, to be more honest, I did, bung the lot on a timeline and start making a selects reel as fast as fingers will allow. sequence timeline is the best skimmer I know – zoom for skimmer sensitivity)
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[Herb Sevush] “Cutting images to music is the easiest type of cutting there is”
amen, and for my sins, when not scripting promos, or doing something more useful, I do raaather a lot of that for peeps. it feels nakedly simple.
here’s venue cut for the Olympics at the mall – most of the other cuts were chasing the races themselves, which is peculiarly nerve-wracking – you can’t let your editing slip more than 15-20 minutes behind realtime because the highlights have to go out straight after the medal ceremony. this one largely got cut late evening prior and between 6-9 am before the mens marathon as a wrap up before the final event. insane amount of footage to trawl through in the time mind you. (also we had oodles of intermittent dirty graphics feed) annd I totally messed up the shot interplay timing before the race kick off. drives me nuts now. also there were vehement baby directives. which I’m fine with in retrospect.
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and, for the record, Bill has consistently provided pithy, brief, balanced posts, completely devoid of condescension, verbosity, ad hominem attacks, pomposity, delusions of grandeur, messianic insights into editing, or wildly inappropriate closing quotations.
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jesus. yes, right ok – exhibition – one day cricket.
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ha! I come off *resplendently* as a dick 😉 – repeatedly. (please ignore arsey FCP engineer quote above…)
half suspect I haven’t given the software enough time of day – makes for a dodgy perspective.
but there’s a real bull mood over here. herd says no.
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[Charlie Austin] “That’s horseshit.”
it bloody well is not.
“The goal for every Apple software product is to sell more hardware.
Even the Mac operating system is just trying to get people to buy more Mac computers.The pro market is too small for Apple to care about it.
Instead of trying to get hundreds or even thousands of video professionals to buy new Macs,
they can nail the pro-sumer market and sell to hundreds of thousands of hobbyists like me.”https://sachin.posterous.com/why-apple-built-final-cut-pro-x
That bloke, Charlie, was on the FCP staff for over half a decade. that is his determination of FCPX.
A question to you ok?
Is there actually, ever, a valid point beyond which editors should, or are bound to, defend the essential characteristics of professional software? When does dumb get really really dumb? when the primary is green and the secondary is orange? mmm?
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“before speaking, hold a doughnut, compress snow, and sneeze”
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Dandy. call it out mate – call out the involved studios and shows, that’s very worth while –
I happily quoted a BBC factual editor a while back who was pitching a flag for an exclusive FCPX doco site in london. off a chat like this over at fcpx.co –
its all good.
but, to be fair, in the end, judgement will eventually be called on this software and the whole secondary/roles/connected whatever
I think its us because our nose is at the grindstone – we get to have every wrinkle at the worst possible moment.
however – if judgements on the scale you are referencing are actually happening at major studios with major projects – you really should lay that out.
that could have me instantly back at the app for the simplest bread hungry reasons.
(and I really have spent half-decent time at the app)
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[Jerry Hofmann] “Apple has sold more copies of X than it did of Studio 3. This is more than 3 million copies. This says something. This says that there are adoptions going on all over the place, and not being talked much about. It’s not about what the 10,000 need. It’s about what the 4 million need. “
This has been said a number of times over god knows how long, but Im not sure what it means. If it means that Apple have hit the bullseye on an approachable, yet scaling to advanced editing system that may square the circle of pixelmator/whatever/elements to say photoshop, or the numerous starter editing packages to FCP/Avid/Premiere – fine. But the thrust seems to be that by distributing 299 dollar single style wallmart sales in a one off event to a (lets guess the number) large scale, that Apple have then fundamentally shifted the craft and debate, and constructed a novel, and utterly new, editing paradigm – in that case I’m not sure I see it.
“not being talked much about”
That’s an interesting phrase: not being employed, requested, sought after, or paid for in any context might be another phrase. (taught maybe).
straw in the wind here – but premiere just got two london hits this week on mandy worldwide mail list for editing – and the one the week before.
there has not been a single FCPX posting in this entire time, world wide, on this weekly list since the launch of FCPX. And this is not an application ripe to slide into general use – it near absolutely rejects almost all held practise – including its predecessor. It is nearly entirely a creation of cupertino fancy.
Schoonmaker and Murch, (of course their skill level is la-de-da and to be tea party despised as white tower) but seriously – barely any paid editors of factual, narrative and corporate across america and europe have the slightest visible truck with the connected clips, secondary storylines, non-sync detached audio gameshow.the point ultimately is – why should anyone that comprises any element of paid professional practise twist their entire head around to look at, nevermind execute with this thing?
Given that near no one is asking them too?
– bar the street brawl on this forum? I’ve got a half respectable notion of FCPX – I honestly do not buy it.
say for my personal sins, I have spent the last two weeks, up at all hours, editing cycling and marathon highlights for venue playback at the mall and hampton court for the olympics. FCP7 still happily stands, taking a live virtual clip assembly in continuously via movie recorder control. great system. great egalitarian FCP ecosystem. An open, aspirational editing system built on common basic logic. (small wave to secondary storyline/connected clip joke logic)
nobody, (near literally) is writing cheques for the practise of FCPX – and we make our (nominal) livelihoods executing editing in software right?
are we bad to dismiss and ignore this software because we think it is badly and bizarrely made? Does this make us elitists? are the three million unseen FCPX bane men going to rise from the basement of editing gotham and slay us? for our one percent preference for intellectually thorough and consistent software?
Are we bad just to say FCPX is simply a slightly dodgy mess and good luck with that? Aren’t we in a sense partly paid to perceive and weigh this kind of software? Are we trying to destroy the fourth amendment of editing democracy here?
(on a personal adobe note, after three months plus of dialogue, my second hand upgrade to Adobe Production Premium 6.0 is now mine – never, ever try to buy second hand Adobe – it is a kafkaesque nightmare)
I vote Premiere Pro 6.0 – it looks like sense.
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