yes you’re Jason, i totally get your point and i also use flash, but it is sometimes very frustrating let me give you example: scaling down stroke, so if you have some graphic of plenty stroke lines or even if you add stroke to letters (even that simple task is difficult to achieve in flash) and you scale it down it wont be looking good so first you try to convert this stokes to shapes and then in plenty of cases some of strokes will convert good but some of them get totally distorted. sure you can make it right in illustrator and then import back to flash but it get tiresome, other hands creating animation in illustrator using layers seems to be a little bit overkill so what i was looking for is some tool combining reliability of illustrator and easy going of flash