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  • Zoom out of TV screen

    Posted by Shahin Sanayei on December 26, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Hi,

    I wasn’t sure if this is the right place to post this. I appologize if it’s not.

    I have a question about an effect I want to achieve, I was hoping you can help me out.

    This is the scenario:

    We are watching a clip about Canada for example, after a while the camera zooms out and the scene comes out of a TV and we find ourselves in a studio with two people sitting left and right towards the camera and each other and the TV is on the wall between those two people. The persons are looking at the TV screen and then turn towards the camera and one of them starts talking

    I don’t know if that is an editing effect that I need to do with Premiere or with After Effects or can I do it with the camera itself and just zoom on the TV screen so that only the clip fits the camera and then after the clip is done just zoom out? But would there be this flickering effect??

    I hope you can help me on this.
    I am using Premiere CS3.

    Thank you,
    Shahin

    Jon Barrie replied 16 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Chris Buttacoli

    December 28, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    You have the right idea. Use the real camera to zoom out of the TV. Just dissolve to this zoom-out right before it happens and you will minmize any flicker. AE would be easier to sync the two shots, but I’m sure it can be done in PPro.

  • Shahin Sanayei

    December 29, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    so you mean I should zoom on the TV screen and then zoom-out and dissolve to the zoom-out?
    So when I have the camera on the TV, is there no flicker? If so how can I avoid the flicker?

  • Phocas Kroon

    December 29, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    If you have flickering you can see that on the camera monitor.
    If your camera has a manual shutter speed adjustment, play with it untill the flickering disappears.

    Good luck

    Phocas Kroon

  • Chris Buttacoli

    December 29, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    so you mean I should zoom on the TV screen and then zoom-out and dissolve to the zoom-out?
    So when I have the camera on the TV, is there no flicker? If so how can I avoid the flicker?

    You will be dissolving from your already edited “TV” footage to a live shot of the same “TV” footage playing on a television set, where your camera then zooms out to reveal people watching.

  • Jon Barrie

    December 29, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    I must say that getting the timing right of a DVD or vtr playback of this already edited material is becoming complicated. 1st the stuff on tv needs to shot and edited before you can go about shooting the next scene with the tv. And then there is the issue of playback timing which limits creative options and the tv needs to be adjusted so it’s not blown out in the shot… Mate. Use after effects to motion track or even better use mocha, you will need to learn these things but there are online vid tutorials about them so it’s not too bad. Just be sure to shoot it with the tv screen off so it’s black and had whatever reflections are happening. You can incorporate them into the composite for realism by using overlay or another multiplier in AE and the inserted video you want. Make sure you don’t have anyone cover the tv screen in your zoom out/dolly back and the motion track will make it all look real nice. Add a mask to match the shape of the tv edge and feather the edge a little. This is how i would do this shot anyways.
    – Jon Barrie

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Shahin Sanayei

    December 31, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Hello,
    Thank you for your solution, but it sounds kind of complicated to me because I don’t have much AE experience.
    I’m wondering how the Live TV shows such as late night shows do that so fast…Do they do the dissolve method?

    I think I will try your method for experience too.

    Shahin

  • Jon Barrie

    December 31, 2009 at 3:08 am

    That live tv technique is As simple as playback from
    tape in directors box fed to the on set TVs, then crossing from set camera to the actual source playback via the switch board.
    – Jon Barrie

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

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