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Ty Ford
April 19, 2018 at 10:14 pmJoel,
I like the two mic approach much better than a one mic approach . A wide cardioid placed between the two on the end and the one in the center, positioned while listening so each person is equally picked up.
You might try a stereo mic, like an Audio Technica BP4025.
https://bhpho.to/2HRoNC9A lot depends on placement but at the correct height (out of frame) you might be able to cover three people.
But those guys on the clip you put up. I’m pretty sure they’re on lavs. and their space is very controlled.
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Ty Ford
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Joel Conder
April 19, 2018 at 10:17 pmThank you Ty I will have a look at what you have suggested. I Appreciate it!
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Chris Pike
April 29, 2018 at 1:47 amI’m dealing with a similar situation. Except I’m doing an exercise video, I’m in a production studio, I’m walking around the set, and I’m occasionally doing the exercises as I speak. Since I’m exercising, a lav won’t work ( I don’t think). The set in this case is an area about 10×12″. Our first shoot we used one boom mic because nobody was behind the mixing board, and it was pretty much a disaster. In any case, I have come to the conclusion that the only way to do this is to use three or four boom mics AND to put them in the frame. A fundamental rule in most video is to hide the boom mics, but it isn’t possible to get decent sound this way. So my next shoot, I’m just going to blatantly break the rule and there will be three or four mics totally in the frame, but not blocking any models. I think the viewer will understand what is happening and why, and if they understand then they won’t mind.
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Ty Ford
April 29, 2018 at 1:16 pmHello Chris and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.
I don’t think you’ll like the sound from you’re multi boom approach.
How physical are you getting?
Seen these? https://bhpho.to/2KlTekw
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TyFord
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Chris Pike
May 1, 2018 at 9:13 pmHi Ty, Thanks for tip. I should confess that I’m a paranoid about rf radiation. I can’t believe people hold their cell phones against their heads. I’m reluctant to have that headset transmitter strapped to my torso. I would really like to make a multi-mic approach work. I would have mics positioned front, right, and left, and somebody at a sound board would switch to the mic that is working the best. The only place this plan really falls apart is if I lie down on the floor. I’ll let you know how the plan works. A lot depends on how many mics this facility can provide me.
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Ty Ford
May 1, 2018 at 10:17 pmHello Chris,
I understand your concern. I’m not sure it’s a problem, but I’m not sure it’s not.
The other thing you could do is wear the headset mic and plug it into a small recorder. Record your audio and sync it up to the video by recording a scratch of your audio from one mic in the room to the camera and using Pluralize to sync the two together in post. It’s very easy to do these days.
Here’s the recorder. Tascam DR 10L portable recorder: https://bhpho.to/2FybN1q
It takes a 1/8″ mono mic input, so you could use it with the headset mic that clips on both ears.
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Ty Ford
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Chris Pike
May 2, 2018 at 12:19 amTy, thanks. I had not thought of a recorder that straps on. Then you don’t have to worry about reception between transmitter and receiver, which is ruinous if it goes out. I’ll think seriously of forking out the money for this. $200 for the recorder and $150 or so for headset. Would work great – unless I lie on my back. While you have been so kind to engage me, I’d like to ask whether a well placed boom mic might be better in the sense that it gives you “the feel of a room”?
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Ty Ford
May 2, 2018 at 2:35 amChris,
Any boom mic more than 2 feet away will sound unappealing and your clients will shriek and run away.
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Chris Pike
May 2, 2018 at 4:18 am> Any boom mic more than 2 feet away will sound unappealing and your clients will shriek and run away.
Wow, thanks for the specific distance.
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Bruce Watson
May 2, 2018 at 2:58 pm[chris pike] “…I’d like to ask whether a well placed boom mic might be better in the sense that it gives you “the feel of a room”?”
It might, and that would typically be a problem. Nobody likes “small room sound”, and once you’ve recorded it, it’s just about impossible to fix it. The key is to avoid recording it in the first place.
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