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I’ve asked on a couple of other forums about handheld use, without response. What happens if you take your Varicam or Red off the sticks and want to do some shoulder camera work. Are we back to BVU/umbilical days? Does anyone else see this as a potential issue? The product is fantastic, well-designed and engineered. But who shoots exclusively on a tripod?
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Very cool, I had no idea you could configure the product like this. Can’t wait to learn more about it after the show concludes.
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Peter… I think the “I didn’t get a response” is exaggerated by the comparative time you might be posting your questions since you are on Australian time mate… we are doing our very best to answer questions in a timely fashion.
From the CML (Cinematograpy Mailing List) reply to your question posted by the AJA Product Manager regarding handheld work with the unit:
Peter C. – Handheld configuration is totally possible… in fact I was really excited to show it at NAB, but was over-ruled by my superiors because we are trying to communicate so much about the product here at NAB and I only had time to get a few low quality shots of myself with the unit shoulder mounted. I have images taken by a co-worker of me handholding the unit on my iPhone if anyone stops by the booth at NAB and can find me! Basically, using our Exoskeleton for the product, you invert the rod endplates, so that instead of mounting rod accessories to the unit as you do now, you mount Ki Pro to an existing set of rods and a baseplate/shoulder mount to place the unit above the bottom of the camera. In the end this very elegant actually and can somewhat transform small cameras with the “hold me at arms length and get tired easy because the camera is not properly on my shoulder design” to a viable shoulder design. In my initial testing, I use a Zacuto universal baseplate, simple shoulder pad and a follow focus as a grip for my left side (I’d want that piece anyhow!) to achieve what I’m describing. But a picture is worth a thousand words, so wait for the professional photos – not an iPhone image of me- to see how nice this actually can be… particularly with your A.C. using the iPhone or iPod Touch to arm your recording – even set your clip name – while you keep the camera on your shoulder… as a camera operator/1st A.C./D.P. I am pretty excited to go shoot with beta units handheld after NAB is over!
Hopefully this information is useful… we will do our best to answer questions on all of the forums, but timely answers may be difficult until the conclusion of NAB.
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[AJA Sales Department] “Peter… I think the “I didn’t get a response” is exaggerated by the comparative time you might be posting your questions since you are on Australian time mate… we are doing our very best to answer questions in a timely fashion.
From the CML (Cinematograpy Mailing List) reply to your question posted by the AJA Product Manager regarding handheld work with the unit:”
Hi there. The extra info is really useful. I wish I could see it at NAB myself as it is looks a fantastic product. And yes I do lose track of the time zones!
You probably misunderstood me. I meant “no response” from all the camera operators who were posting on forums, not AJA. Besides my post, there are many other unrelated threads all over the web raving about the Ki but not one person mentions shooting off the shoulder with the it.
I don’t want to sound pedantic but my original question directly concerned 2/3″ cameras like Varicam and XDCAM HD and how the Ki Pro could operate with it hand held. The info in the above post refers to small cameras (I’m assuming cams like the HVX200 and ERX1/3). I still can’t see how the procedure detailed above would work with our SDX900 which is similar to the camera shown in the AJA brochure. The camera would sit way too high on the shoulder for operating.
Peter Corbett
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I wonder what it would feel like if you bunged a v-lock adapter on it and hung it off the battery pack… Anybody know how heavy it is? The brochure doesn’t seem to say…
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Hey Guys:
My solution to the handheld issue is get a wireless Hd Transmitter and slap it onto the back of the camera and problemsolved.
IDX has a tx/Reciever combo selling for 5K,
https://www.idxtek.com/products/trans_sys.html
and the KiPro is 4K so that is 9K. If you do dailies on a regular basis, i think 9K is no money to spend.
That’s my solution
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[Nigel Thompson] “Hey Guys:
My solution to the handheld issue is get a wireless Hd Transmitter and slap it onto the back of the camera and problemsolved.
IDX has a tx/Reciever combo selling for 5K,”
I still think that is a lot of dough Nigel for just getting a feed from the camera. Plus there are confidence issues about the integrity of the recording via wireless, no mater how good the IDX is.
Peter
Peter Corbett
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I feel the best handheld option would be if the Ki-Pro was in a small sound mixer style case by Portabrace or KATA, and a snake containing SDI Co-ax and a control cable connecting the Ki to the large format camera.
This could be slung over the shoulder of the camera person. It’s not quite like the old BVU days, because of the smaller size and weight of the Ki Pro.
I’d also have a quick release connector in the cable. If AJA could put in a audible warning system (like a loud beeping sound) if the video signal dropped out, you would get confidence recording.
Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au
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