xl-h1 or xdcam ex

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xl-h1 or xdcam ex

Posted by Anonymous on December 20, 2007 at 2:29 am

Hi all,

i’m choosing netween the xl-h1 and the xdcam ex
so far i have some conclusions
xl-h1:
+gen+tc in (for use with my lockit)
i like the picture don’t like the hdv format slow rendering
tape based
sdi-out direct into hdextreme
true 25 fps?
easy cheap backup media

xdcam ex
no tc or lanc
true 1920×1080 cmos
under over crank
true 25 fps?
sdi-out direct into hdextreme
fast transfer when used with a expressslot card but much slower with supplied usb2 card reader?
no good backup methode?

i think both have the hd-sdi out before the compression?

what do you think?

i like to do blue/green screen work using the hd-sdi out or on recorded material when in the field

i have a 744t and a lockit so locking tc would be a big plus

i think i will be using the proress hq 422 a lot for speed /storage sake would recording from the hd-sdi out from prerecoded material (hdv xl-h1 or the mpeg2 into mpeg4 container xdcam)

if recording from the hd-sdi out from the xl-h1 tape would the tc still be in the file? kristian oonce told me i needed premiere pro for that (rp-168 protocol if i remeber)
i.o.w. is the tc maintained in the sdi output? does fcp handel this tc information?

also i just read about the hdv firewire to proress direct capture methode would this contain the tc

thanks in advance for feedback

cheers

martijn

The box said ‘Requires Windows 95, or better.’ So I bought a Macintosh.

Andrew Hamilton replied 18 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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Bouke Vahl
December 20, 2007 at 12:29 pm

Martijn,

Not that experienced with the Sony, but i do edit a lot of xlH1 stuff right now. (I don’t shoot)

I really do not like the picture. Over here we do not have Setup, but every shot from any Xl H1 i’ve seen now (about 5 different ones) have ‘setup’, meaning you have to pull down the overall level by some 0.05 Volt (does not seem too much, but it really is a lot…)

So get a good demo, with a waveform monitor, and see if there are settings to be altered to fix this, or forget about this cam. Do not test the bars (the are correct), but normal test images.

Next, having no TC in on the Sony does not have to be a problem. I’ve made a small program that can read audio TC from one of the audio channels. So feed the TC from the Lockit to an audio channel, use my app to generate AUX TC in the clips and you’re done (with the advantage of continuous TC on tape for fast ingesting).
Download a demo from my site if you like.

Of course there are a lot of other differences, but this is what i know.
Just my .02 euro…

Bouke

http://www.videoToolShed.com
smart tools for video pro’s
Andrew Hamilton
December 26, 2007 at 11:19 pm

I would hold off on your purchase until February when Sony will be releasing the Z7u with more features than either camera + the best of both worlds. The Z7u has the imaging quality of Sony with the interchangeable lens capability of the Canon. They have a shoulder mount version S270 that will be released at the same time.

Both the Z7u and the S270 record directly to CF cards (standard feature not an upgrade). I priced out CF cards yesterday and found a 16GB card for $100 and a 32GB card for about $200.

Here is the link:

https://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/b2b/broadcast_production/pro_audio_video/release/32117.html

Andrew Hamilton
Video Production Las Vegas
https://www.hiproductions.com

Las Vegas Video Production
Hamilton International Productions
http://www.hiproductions.com

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