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Aindreas Gallagher
December 2, 2011 at 11:29 pmah would you come on please.
Ok – so the “editing country club set” “privileged sons and daughters” was meant in some earnestness then?
I’ll tell you what I know – editing is not versailles Bill, it is not the n’obless oblige sons of privilege wafting into positions of editing power –
editing is one of the most blanket competitive things I know. When I walk into a new shop I am extremely nervy and minded to perform well, because Bill, editing is, in essence, in its performance, not who you know, or a glad handshake, or drinks at the bar – it can be all those things, but what it is Bill is a raw expression of skill, performance under pressure and communication skills. You could be the son of the king of france, but if you cannot perform on the day – you are toast.
Was Thelma Schoonmaker the daughter of editing royalty? or anyone? She couldn’t get union accreditation for years. A mate of mine assisted her in Dublin prepping for a talk she was giving – she was lovely Bill. She was just devoted to her craft. This notion that professionally functional software and the people using it to the best of their extent being a cabal is .. laughable.
its just laughable, and insulting to the basic notion of advancement in what is an utterly meritocratic craft. If you edit like no one else on earth, you will bloody well advance.
this stuff is no good Bill, particularly when allied to a false argument that a buggy expansion of iMovie is an answer to all the world’s ills.
Because it is a few hundred dollars cheaper than FCP studio – that with half the software to answer professional scenarios gone?
Apart from anything else, besides the above – this is not particularly good software full stop, its undercooked, buggy, and frankly, to my eye, it is directly designed out of a consumer product with deliberation for the monetisation of that market.
http://www.ogallchoir.net
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Franz Bieberkopf
December 2, 2011 at 11:30 pm[Bill Davis] “Good question.”
Bill,
You haven’t answered the question.
Even taking “the kind of content in the “Videos” section right here on the Cow” as a model of the future (which I’ll just pass by for the sake of argument), I don’t see why FCPX is unique in it’s ability to handle those edits. How is it differentiated even against FCExpress (to say nothing of Premiere Elements, iMovie, and other contenders)?
Franz.
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Greg Burke
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Chris Harlan
December 3, 2011 at 3:28 am[Oliver Peters] “[Frank Gothmann] “We are talking about a piece of software, nothing magical here, compiled by nordic, blonde virgins in the first full-moon night after an eclipse to turn it into anything other than a plain and simple software tool to get work done.”
LOL. Wasn’t your software handed to you from the heavens on stone tablets like everyone else’s?
– Oliver
“Mine actually rose–in the hands of a maiden–from the center of glassy alpine lake. As she burst from the water, the ripple she caused was so pristine that I fully believe it to be the very model for the very first ripple effect.
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Chris Harlan
December 3, 2011 at 3:40 amAll true what you are saying here, yet I cannot help but feel that the son of the King of France–pre-revolution–might get to keep his chair just a tad longer, skills or no.
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Rafael Amador
December 3, 2011 at 5:30 am[Bill Davis] “I actually don’t think so in a lot of cases. In some ways I think it’s like an individual trying to be both a guitar and a banjo player. You can become “competent” at both. But to really excel, I think most musicians typically concentrate on one instrument. There are exceptions, and I suppose it’s a bit based on whether you want to see the editor as a “technician” (operating a variety of tools) or an “artist” (attempting to achieve absolute mastery of one). Both views are rational. Pick one, I guess.”
Bill,
For what I see on your web site, you write, shoot, edit and I guess you may also light, color grade and make graphics.
So, how you do it?
What do you consider your self, a writer, a cameraman, an editor, colorist..?
Do you consider your self an artist or a technician?
Do you try to be competent in all those areas or do you try to master one of them?
Or master all of them?
I also write, shoot, edit and the rest. I have even to design the covers and boxes when I deliver DVDs and even to put them in the boxes by mi self.
I have no time to try be an artists. Im too busy to try to make my best to spend time to excel on nothing.
I don’t know in your market, but in mine what counts is the final product not the guys that has made it possible.
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Chris Harlan
December 3, 2011 at 7:58 am[Bill Davis] “Perhaps it never works that way on your side of the pond… but if I had a dollar for every production pro I’ve ever talked to who lost a position to someone “better connected” by birth or marriage to a working pro in the industry, I’d be able to… well, to buy a lot more nice toys.”
I’ve certainly seen my share of that, Bill, but usually not in editorial, where people generally have to be skilled and responsible. Also, the long solitary hours don’t really act as an incentive. I’m not sure I’d call it a dream job, unless it is the kind of thing you are driven to.
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Kim Krause
December 3, 2011 at 9:01 amso you threw out stuff that works perfectly well for most jobs….doesnt make sense to me. after all avid works on a mac premiere works on macs davinci works on a mac as does color as does pro tools as does photoshop…..get where i’m going? what are you really gaining and what is the cost for all this cross platform exercise?
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Ray Wang
December 3, 2011 at 10:54 am[Kevin Patrick] “Their fastest iMac runs FCP X as fast as their fastest Mac Pro.
Mac Pro 3.33 GHZ, 24 GB RAM, 5870 GPU
iMac 3.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 6970 GPU
https://barefeats.com/fcpx01.html “A dual 3.33 GHz would probably top iMac 3.4. This would still make MBP the fastest in the entire line up but not by much. Terrible price/performance though.
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Richard Cardonna
December 3, 2011 at 1:02 pmWell maybe they will all follow Edit shares business model, give out Lightworks for free with a yearly fee of $60.00 to cover for future development and license fees and sell tons of storage.
Adobe is maybe the only one that does not offer any hw but they are expanding into other areas in internet business.
RC
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