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Workflow/Project Suggestions?
Hello all, I have a project I’m shooting next Tuesday night which will need to be out by Wednesday 24 hours later. Feeling ok about it but I just want to get the most efficient workflow so I can put the hours into editing rather than converting & exporting etc.
Will be shooting on:
XDCAM HD F800 – 720 50p
Canon 7D DSLR – 720 50p
and a few shots on 5D DSLR – 720 25p7D and 5D will first be processed in Avid MetaFuze to match the Avid project.
Editing on Avid Symphony version 5 with a Sony PDWHD1500 deck to ingest the XDCAM footage.
The clip will be of skateboarding so will be utilizing the 50p capabilities of each camera for smooth slow motion. The clip will be about a 50/50 mix of normal speed and slow motion footage.
Here’s my first idea on how to go about this. The final output will be 720 25p.
Use 720 25p settings, with 50p footage playing back as slow motion. Speeding up by 200% to achieve normal speed playback for desired clips.
Question A: How do I get the 50p XDCAM footage into Avid for this? The other editor here has used MetaFuze on the 5D and 7D files before, would it be a similar process for the XDCAM files off the XDCAM disc?Question B: Would the sound sync in slow (100% 50p) & normal (200%) motion?
On the other hand I thought there may be some advantages to edit using the 720 50p setting that I will be shooting. The footage would play back at normal speed with no messing around, making it easier to edit & select clips. There will be many takes of each skateboard trick attempt so this could make editing a bit easier.
Question C: At the 50p setting can I slow down the footage to 50% using timewarp and will it look smooth like 50p playing back at 25p?Question D: Will it work to output the final movie to 25p so the normal speed footage looks like normal 25p but the slow motion looks smooth like 50p played back at 25p? I don’t want the 50p normal speed footage to look like interlaced if that makes sense.
Hope you guys have a bit of experience in this area. I’ve been lucky enough to borrow my employer’s equipment for this so I can enter in a video competition, otherwise all we use all day is either straight 25i or 1080 25p for regular day to day edits… this project however is a bit more challenging!
Best regards, Danny.
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2 Replies
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What version of Media Composer are you using? I don’t see a reason to use MetaFuze in this scenario. With v5, you can use AMA to directly access the 5D and 7D footage as well as the XDCAM. For I would create a base 25p project for your final sequence, but create 720p/50 projects for the slomo.
Once the 720p/50 stuff has been linked to, open those bins in your 25p project. Frame rate mix and match will kick in automatically so when you edit material intended for slomo, you need need to go to the effect parameters for each shot and set the rate to be 1:1 rather than adjusted. This will play it back as slomo, or even slower if you set the rate slower.
Once you get to close to your final, or final locked sequence, transcode the entire sequence to an Avid DNxHD format to easily prepare you for whatever output you need to provide for delivery.
You have quick start AMA guides for all the formats you are using here:
https://www.avid.com/US/products/Avid-Media-AccessIf you don’t have v5, you can always get a free 30 day trial from avid.com as well. That will easily cover your 24 hours… 🙂
Michael
Michael Phillips
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Hi Michael, thanks for your quick reply!
I’ll try and get some time to set up a test project before the real thing, but opening the bins from the 50p project sounds really helpful.
I think I will go with the main 25p project as you’ve suggested.Yes you can directly use the 5D and 7D media with V5, we have had this going on both MC and Symphony V5 suites however there is a terrible lag when using this method, I really found it too frustrating and vowed never to go there again!
Best regards,
Danny
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