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With Great Sadness……
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[TImothy Auld] ” With Apple it has always been difficult to get them to even accept that the software in question even came from them. And if you were having problems with it then it was likely your own fault.
“Ain’t that the truth. Their first level of support is stellar, but when you go beyond that it deteriorates rapidly. And I’ve always gotten the feeling that I’m talking to folks in totalitarian regimes that were terrified of saying anything not exactly party line.
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Oh, yeah.
Tim
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[Jim Giberti] “Here’s how bad it was.
Everything, the whole edit and all finishing was done in a lovely organized Primary and a few neatly organized Compound Clips.
All that needed to be done was to add a stack of names in order to customize the film for different dealers around the country.As a matter of interest were your clips in the timeline all the same resolution and frame rate? I only ask because just today I got a phone call to add some subtitles to a video (as the audio was so poor!). I spent half an hour or so putting the first few subtitles in and it was terrible, beaching balling all the time etc.
The I remembered that the timeline is 1920 x 1080 25p, the clip I was subtitling was some weird MP4 (can’t remember if its optimised or not) but on top of that some weird frame size and 29.97. And my subtitle FCP effect is 1920×1080 25p.
So I exported an un subtitled submaster to Prores 422 and loaded that into its own project sticking the subtitles over that
…. and with that FCP X was back to its usual snappy self.
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[Tim Wilson] ”
There’s an extent to which they started going down the market-specific route with FCP. I see FCPX as a course correction, nothing more or less. Certainly NOT a deviation, but a return to what they’ve done from the beginning: create products that attempted to CHANGE markets, not to SERVE markets. Steve openly mocked companies who focused on markets and tried to build products for them.
“I’d leave myself entirely out of this rather sane, adult conversation, particularly given the seriousness of what happened to the client material quoted, but I’ve got an issue with the above.
Its like saying – yes, we got into editing/desktop publishing/accountancy/insurance actuarial databases / but… then we remembered that it is not our job to serve markets, it is to change markets
that is problematic. those markets, like our market, are not consumer software purchase markets, ripe for re-making ala ipad, where consumer leisure experience acknowledges the worth of the new paradigm and migrates.
our markets, our market that Apple grew to dominate, from a single shop to a state broadcaster , these are livelihood dependant markets. Continuously, and financially, livelihood dependent markets. Christ: editing is a touch to touch craft wage check. You can’t just nuke the toolset for giggles.
to simply turn around a decade later, whip off the cloth and say : “TA-DAAA!!! damn slavish market adherence , have THIS!!” –
And to have it be quite crazy, and, on this reading, pretty spine chillingly buggy –
It’s. just. not. good. enough.
It’s not on. None of this is on.
I would throw my glove down on the lawn of cupertino at this point.
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Would it have been better if Apple had just decided to quit the Edit Software business completely? I think there probably would have been much less outcry if they had done that.
I’m not surprised people who don’t like FCPX are moving on, they should!
Steve Connor
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[Steve Connor] “Would it have been better if Apple had just decided to quit the Edit Software business completely?”
i don’t know. Just how crazy are Apple really? would it have been better if they had instantaneously destroyed all copies of FCP in existence, while simultaneously issuing a statement declaring an end to all editing? That it was over and we should all go away and think about it?
Apple are just nuts. To any sane professional, Apple look nuts at this point.
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[Chris Harlan] “I’ve always gotten the feeling that I’m talking to folks in totalitarian regimes that were terrified of saying anything not exactly party line.”
Absolutely! And, I can tell you that happens at the dealer level too. There’s nothing a dealer rep. at Apple will tell you that we here don’t already know.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Absolutely! And, I can tell you that happens at the dealer level too. There’s nothing a dealer rep. at Apple will tell you that we here don’t already know.”
However in the trenches….. I talked to a retail employee (who I did not know) sometime after the FCPX launch, when the person found out I was in production….. they proceeded to give me a scathing review of FCPX.
don walker
texarkana, texasJohn 3:16
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[Jim Giberti] “I’m talking about files so bad that FInder wouldn’t allow me to mouse over them in the browser.
Something I’ve never even heard of let alone experienced in decades of Macs.”Just curious, Jim. Did you ever get this solved?:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/344/8643
Bad ram can cause things to go down in a hurry. Did you try reloading the system at any point?
10.0.3 has certainly brought some bad performance and there’s no excuse to release something that hasn’t been vetted, but if files in the Finder are corrupt, it could point to other more systemic issues.
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[Mark Raudonis] “We had several seats of “Final Touch” as “Color” was known pre Apple. Paid good money for it. Never regretted it! As I recall, it was quite stable. It was missing some features, but it was predictable.”
That’s not the experience I had. The early days were pretty rugged, borderline madness. From XML to GUI issues, it was a major crash gets for a while there. It did stabilize nicely after a while.
I will miss Color the most, I’m glad there’s other alternatives out there now with more in the pipeline.
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