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  • With Great Sadness……

    Posted by Don Walker on March 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    As I write this post, FCP X is busy converting a multi clip camera angle into a ProRes File for me. When it is done with that, it will convert 2 more 110 minute angles. After that is all done I will reboot my computer to my Snow Leopard partition (Thanks DRW) and resurrect my project on FCP 7. The past two nights, 2 different bugs have kept me up way past my bedtime. Last night I lost 2 hours worth of work because of the “Undo” bug. And Saturday night as I proofing a DVD that was going to played at a church (a client), i discovered that the ” Phantom Audio” bug had come to visit, causing me 90 minutes worth of troubleshooting and work arounds.

    After reading the FCP X Techniques forums, I have come to 2 conclusions:
    1. I really should spend a lot more time on the “techniques” forum, than watching the fireworks here.
    2. FCPX really isn’t ready for primetime!

    If these bugs were in some new software by some 5 man startup in Toledo, I could understand. But this is Apple. The beta testers surely ran into both of these bugs (a lot!) Why would anybody release a upgrade that has these things in it.

    This is a week of stress for me. The project that I’m working on is due in two days, my son’s getting married on Saturday, (with all the relatives defending on Texas etc,) so I am just blowing off steam.

    The thing is; I LOVE EDITING WITH X! It’s perfect for the 1 man shop like mine.
    There are just so many things that are incomplete. This is from a company whose whole culture revolves around designing things that are well designed with an eye towards perfection.

    Am I abandoning X? No. Tomorrow I will edit a couple of projects I do every week, on X.
    But with the big money projects under a deadline…… off to 7 I go!
    With Great Sadness…..

    don walker
    texarkana, texas

    John 3:16

    Jeremy Garchow replied 14 years, 1 month ago 28 Members · 114 Replies
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  • Don Walker

    March 12, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Please forgive all the unproved typos in my post….

    don walker
    texarkana, texas

    John 3:16

  • Bobby Mosca

    March 12, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    You think you’re bummed… I’ve got a bit of break this month, so after the last little bit is cleaned up, all new projects will begin in CS 5.5.

  • Bernard Newnham

    March 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    …and mine in Edius

    B

  • Tim Wilson

    March 12, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    [Don Walker] “After reading the FCP X Techniques forums, I have come to 2 conclusions:
    1. I really should spend a lot more time on the “techniques” forum, than watching the fireworks here.”

    FCPX Techniques is the COW’s #2 forum, and generates enough traffic all by itself to be the #1 site on the web for anything related to any version of FCP. (It happens that we have some other FCP stuff here, too.)

    Fireworks can be fun, too…but yeah, when it comes time to get to work, FCPX Techniques is the place to go. You’ll even find a lot of people who find that it’s quite ready for their own prime time experience and who might be offer advice…as well as sympathy.

    Speaking of which, everyone here at the COW extends their own sympathies. We were editors before we were involved with websites, and can imagine your pain….

    Regards,
    Tim

    Tim Wilson
    Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine

  • Juan Salvo

    March 12, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Don,

    I have to say I’m finding the same things. I had a highlights reel project come in last week. I’ve done these a thousand times before and can turn one out with my eyes closed. So I figured it would be good to try and do it in fcpx. It seems to me the “pedigree” of X denotes it’s limitations. Logging and assembling was a true pleasure. Lightning fast. But as soon as I started polishing. Adding transitions making some l-cuts. It just became an unreliable mess.

    Seems to me that this could have been a great stand alone product. If they had just stuck to what Randy Ubillos had envisioned… “First Cut Pro” would be a great editing tool.

    Too bad.

    Sorry to hear about your troubles… I’m right there with you.

  • Steve Connor

    March 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    [Don Walker] “After reading the FCP X Techniques forums, I have come to 2 conclusions:
    1. I really should spend a lot more time on the “techniques” forum, than watching the fireworks here.
    2. FCPX really isn’t ready for primetime!

    Version 1.03 software is still going to be buggy, no-one gets software right that quickly, despite what other manufacturers might say. How long did it take FCP to be usable for most people?

    You have to accept that when you use the software at the moment, like it or not you are a beta tester.

    Having said that, some of us are finding FCPX to be remarkably stable and usable considering how new it is, but many other users like you are having issues. Hopefully Apple are reading the crash reports and figuring out the issues and over the next year we will see constant improvement.

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Agitator”
    Adrenalin Television

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 12, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Ironically, 10.0.3 has been the most unreliable for me.

    I really want to like this software, I really do, but I can’t use it like this in a real world setting, so for now we wait and test other NLE’s while making money on FCS3.

    I’m sure it will get better.

    Jeremy

  • David Lawrence

    March 12, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Ironically, 10.0.3 has been the most unreliable for me.

    I really want to like this software, I really do, but I can’t use it like this in a real world setting, so for now we wait and test other NLE’s while making money on FCS3.”

    I wonder if anyone’s checked in with Evan Schectman lately? 😉

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  • Lance Bachelder

    March 12, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Version 1.03 software is still going to be buggy, no-one gets software right that quickly, despite what other manufacturers might say. How long did it take FCP to be usable for most people?

    Yeah we need to stop this whole “it’s version 1, give Apple a break” argument. Apple named it version 10! They’ve had a lot of years to work on this and get it right. If they want to be revolutionary then X should have been better in EVERY way than previous versions! This has been there M.O. for every product line they have, new versions are better, faster etc. than previous just like the new iPad.

    No more free lunch Apple…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Steve Connor

    March 12, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “Yeah we need to stop this whole “it’s version 1, give Apple a break” argument. Apple named it version 10! They’ve had a lot of years to work on this and get it right. If they want to be revolutionary then X should have been better in EVERY way than previous versions! This has been there M.O. for every product line they have, new versions are better, faster etc. than previous just like the new iPa”

    I’m not saying give Apple a break at all,I’m just saying that as a professional I know that any software that is 100% new code is not going to be reliable straight out of the gate, whether it’s Apple or any other Developer, seen it before, will see it again.

    Personally I think it’s a very good job for a new piece of software, in some ways it IS faster and better than FCP7 and if Apple hadn’t crapped on all the FCS3 users by dropping it so quickly, so would more people.

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Agitator”
    Adrenalin Television

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