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  • Oliver Peters

    March 15, 2012 at 1:21 am

    [Walter Soyka] “but then I realized I couldn’t. I couldn’t come up with a single counterexample in the professional space that showed something that Apple both designed and built entirely in-house that was renowned for feature set or broad applicability, stability and performance”

    I would suggest Aperture – the Lightroom/Aperture debates notwithstanding.

    But I think the point you are making – to which I would agree – is that Apple is the ultimate remix artist among hardware/software developers. Most of their designs are derivative, although often significantly enhanced with an innovative approach and designed for better ease of use. And, of course, marketed like it was first invented at Apple.

    – Oliver

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  • Walter Soyka

    March 15, 2012 at 1:30 am

    [Oliver Peters] “I would suggest Aperture – the Lightroom/Aperture debates notwithstanding.”

    I spaced on Aperture — that’s a good one to point out. It is well-designed, with good performance and stability.

    That said, my wife is a photographer and recently switched to Lightroom. She’s found that Lightroom does more and performs better on the same hardware.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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  • Oliver Peters

    March 15, 2012 at 1:37 am

    [Walter Soyka] “She’s found that Lightroom does more and performs better on the same hardware.”

    Same for me. Plus Apple doesn’t seem to be paying too much attention to Aperture anymore. Knock down the price and sell it on the App Store. Hmm…..

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 15, 2012 at 2:40 am

    [Walter Soyka] “I was more than a bit surprised when I thought this through, but might there be more to Michael’s argument than appears at first blush? Is there something else I’m not thinking of?”

    Apple is a hardware company.

  • Chris Harlan

    March 15, 2012 at 3:10 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Apple is a hardware company.”

    I just find this argument so much less compelling these days. This whole hardware/software dichotomy just does not seem appropriate to what Apple is becoming. It certainly was true for much of the last decade–especially when they bought/developed the Pro Apps to sell hardware, but in this decade of this century its services are becoming nearly as important as its devices, and the line between its services and devices is very blurry.

  • Walter Soyka

    March 15, 2012 at 3:14 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Apple is a hardware company.”

    I’m not so sure.

    Samsung is a hardware company.

    Apple sells hardware, but their value proposition is the whole system and its cohesion: hardware, software, and now services.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 15, 2012 at 3:46 am

    [Walter Soyka] “Apple sells hardware, but their value proposition is the whole system and its cohesion: hardware, software, and now services.”

    A smart hardware company with a money making formula that’s just good enough to peddle that hardware.

    You don’t have Apple without the hardware.

    Sorry.

  • David Lawrence

    March 15, 2012 at 5:09 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “A smart hardware company with a money making formula that’s just good enough to peddle that hardware.

    You don’t have Apple without the hardware.”

    Apple is a user experience company.

    Hardware is a piece of it. Software is a piece of it. But in the end, both are focused with laser-like intention on delivering the best possible user experience. Period.

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  • David Roth weiss

    March 15, 2012 at 6:03 am

    [David Lawrence] “Apple is a user experience company.

    Hardware is a piece of it. Software is a piece of it. But in the end, both are focused with laser-like intention on delivering the best possible user experience. Period.”

    Seems like that laser is burning a lot of people as of late. 🙂

  • David Lawrence

    March 15, 2012 at 6:19 am

    [David Roth Weiss] “Seems like that laser is burning a lot of people as of late. :)”

    True that. And one could argue their design focus is getting soft in the UI department as well.

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