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With FCPX magnetic timeline,the non-linear is linear again!
Posted by Samir Kassab on June 27, 2011 at 11:10 pmEvery time I need to put some clips aside on the timeline,or just try to make a small gap to create a space to try out cuts,the magnetic time line keeps pulling things back together!if need to have my timeline “under control” i have to use the position tool !
Anyway,the general feeling I’ve got after 1 week of using FCPX,that it loves to work in a linear style(hence “append to the end tool ).I find it kinda of surreal that the allegedly most advanced NLE wants u to work in a linear style!
Eddie Mcfly replied 14 years, 9 months ago 12 Members · 29 Replies -
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 28, 2011 at 12:20 amyep yep yep. That drives me pretty much out of my gourd too. but sure I’m not here to talk – I’m here to sell you a ticket to a petition 🙂
pass it along to your mates!
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Craig Seeman
June 28, 2011 at 12:22 amUse the Position tool (P) to move clips to create a gap.
If you try to use the Selection tool (A) it will keep the clips connected.
Also Option W can insert a gap.
Also if you use Shift Delete when removing a clip you’ll have a gap instead of rippling.I wish people wouldn’t pass judgment until they really went through the program in detail. It’s very different than FCP7 It’s quite powerful despite its missing features, once you learn it.
Because gaps are like transparent slugs, you can actually Connect clips to them.
Also you can select a bunch of Connected clips and create a Secondary Storyline which can be edited like a V2 track in which the gaps are transparent so that the Primary Storyline (V1) is visible at those points. Use the V command to disable clips as needed as well. You can actually use the Secondary Storyline to create an alternate cut if needed. -
Aindreas Gallagher
June 28, 2011 at 12:38 amwait – we have V2? – I’m kidding I’m kidding – God knows I’m the self designated histrionics verbal hyperbole on this thing – but honestly – when you say which ‘can be edited like a V2’ do you not at all miss…. functioning numbered tracks that you can solo or disable? do you not miss V2 and its numerical brethren? why are we dealing with this? I know – this is the millionth time I’ve put up sentences like these – but am I wrong in thinking there was an essential intellectual rigour to the presentation of FCP7? for all the things that I might need it to do in an untold number of scenarios? and that that powerful professional flexibility is gone?
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 28, 2011 at 12:47 amgood stuff, sure lets just pray it gets picked up by a few more news outlets. the numbers are getting respectable. maybe then we’ll actually get straight dice out of cupertino.
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Samir Kassab
June 28, 2011 at 12:51 amI agree it’s a powerful tool,and it has lot of potentials! But to use workarounds all the time to mimic the way we used to work is just annoying!Some things just I work as they are!but if the X grew up to be a professional app,adjusting to the interface won’t be a problem! I sure hope we are not wasting time learning it!apple has to make it worth the trouble!
Thanks for the ” attaching clips to the gaps” tip!
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David Lawrence
June 28, 2011 at 1:03 amThe magnetic timeline is the biggest UI FAIL I’ve ever encountered.
Want to try something fun? Drop a clip on the timeline. Use the Position tool to move it – let’s say 10 seconds on the timeline. Because maybe, just maybe, you want 10 seconds of black at the head of your show. Done that? Good. Now let’s say you want to put a 1-second fade-up from black at the head of your clip. Click on the head of the clip and type command-T on the keyboard. Watch what happens. Can anyone explain WTF the thinking is here? Totally wrong behavior. Total UI FAIL.
I swear, the more things I try FCPX the more it pisses me off.
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Matt Callac
June 28, 2011 at 1:20 am[samir kassab] “But to use workarounds all the time to mimic the way we used to work is just annoying”
yeah, i’m trying not to do that. Trying to get your system to work like FCP 7 seems like a sort of crutch. I’m sure if you want to get really fast at editing, you can’t try the old methods, you have to adopt the new ways of doing things.
-mattyc
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Craig Seeman
June 28, 2011 at 1:52 am[Matt Callac] “Trying to get your system to work like FCP 7 seems like a sort of crutch.”
I agree. There’s no need to use workarounds if you really understand how FCPX works. Connected clips are great. Being able to use Secondary Storyline is good for certain situations. I see no need to live in a track based editing world. If I can have cutaways, titles, FX, alternate shots with Connected clips it’s a lot cleaner workflow for me. There’s so much I like about FCPX I’d rather bank on Apple adding the missing features than look backwards or sideways.
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Douglas K. dempsey
June 28, 2011 at 2:17 amCraig:
I layer a lot, sometimes having 3, 4 or even half a dozen video tracks that keyframe in opacity. Think of the opening sequence in “Apocalypse Now” where you have designed layers of jungle, multiple groups of helicopters, whirling blades, napalm, then interiors with various details, all maintained as independent shots and filtered, layered.
Is there a logical way to do that kind of thing with Compound Clips and Secondary Stories, etc? Am I better off sending it to Motion where the layer concept still thrives?
Ditto with titles. Sometimes, to imitate the style of Colonial era broadsheets with their wildly varying typefaces and sizes, I will need 6-8 layers for a title, with various layers for a larger capital letter, for a word in italics, and of course the ability to fade on pieces line by line or word by word. Again, do you know or surmise that title tool via Motion the way to go in FCPX?
Doug D
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