Windows 10

[Steve Rhoden]

The constant Windows updates over time also slows down the OS as the
months/years go by, another reason why i always keep automatic updates off.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

[Scott Francis]

Anyone have ANY reasons to upgrade at all?
I didn’t like what I saw in Win8/8.1 so what is so cool about 10? Seriously, I don’t know what is better or cooler enough to upgrade this OS.

Xavier (Scott) Francis
Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

[Bob Peterson]

What is more likely to slow the machine down over time is inefficient disk organization. Sometimes that’s due to fragmentation. Other times it is due to the defragging algorithm in Windows. I run Diskeeper from Condusiv Technologies. It has proven itself over the years by producing very noticeable improvements in system speed because, among other things, it relocates programs which are used frequently to the areas of the hard drive which have the fastest access. My release of the product is getting a bit old (version 12 vs version 15), but it runs on a continuous basis and keeps all of my disk drives optimized for their best performance. I have not noticed ANY slow down in my computer since it was new. It is now at least five years old.

My old boss discovered this product in, probably, the 1990s. It was remarkably effective then, and it still is effective.

[Bob Peterson]

If you don’t know good, solid reasons for you to upgrade, I would not do so. I think it is fairly certain that there are always going to be glitches with things that do not work such as Aaron’s HP printer which will have to be replaced. I suspect that many of the improvements Aaron mentions are marketing and/or things, such as “Server 2012 support dynamic memory support” which are irrelevant to people like us.

[Nigel O’neill]

My Windows 10 experience has been varied. One laptop, a Dell, upgraded flawlessly. The other, an Asus, seemed to install, but upon initial restart, dimmed the screen right down to 0%, making it look like nothing was working. Took me a while to figure that one out, needless to say. When it finally did upgrade, my system started crashing and would NOT let me roll back. So I wiped it completely, reinstalled Windows 7 and then upgraded to 10. After I got EVERYTHING reinstalled, Windows 10 would inexplicably freeze. I did not have a 3rd party anti-virus (used Microsoft’s) and disabled all startup programs. That worked for about 2 days. Then the freezing started again. I wiped everything again and went back to Windows 7 and it has been rock solid ever since. Unfortunately, nothing in the event logs gives me any clues.

I have another editing system (this PC that is in my message signature) that uses legacy PCI drivers for a 3rd party SATA controller that was inherited from Vista. I would love to upgrade that system to Windows 10, but I really don’t have a compelling reason other than to stay current. I am also nervous as this system has a motherboard based RAID 1 and RAID 0 disk subsystem, and if that fails, I am truly screwed. No Windows 10 roll back option if that happens * sigh *.

My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

[Steve Rhoden]

Scott, if you are currently using Windows 7 and still don’t see a reason to
upgrade, stick with Windows 7, simple.
But if you are currently using Windows 8, i then would encourage you to
upgrade to Windows 10!

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia

[Aaron Star]

If you are running on i7-Gen4 or older, or Hd79xx or older hardware, you are not going to see updates to your system any more. Bios, drivers, nothing. What you will get from the likes of NVidia and AMD are driver updates that will updates the advertising they want pushed out to you, or new graphics that they want seen for the control panel.

Basically if you are running win7 on old hardware, why update, your system will not change as no one is actually solving problems on your hardware anymore. You may get security patches to the OS, but that’s about it. Issues or quirks with older hardware will stay that way until you upgrade. Use your Win7 system until you cannot deal anymore with the problems.

Most of the problems I have had with Win10 were on laptop hardware that was “designed for vista.” Those problems were with a wifi adapter already identified as having a DPC problem with intel’s driver, trackpad driver issues, and card reader drivers.

The problems the user above is having sounds similar to some of the problems I was having with the older laptop I was testing on. This is the type of stuff you run into when you try and support the amount of ageing hardware that MS is. The Apple way is, we do not support that model anymore or architecture, move on. Microsoft could probably take some direction from Apple in that respect.

[Mick Cookson]

Well guys I have pdated my three systems a Dell i7 17″ laptop, that had Win 7 on it, this upgraded with no problems.

My other editing system is a PC desktop Asus m/b i5 cpu and 16gb ram,Nvidia graphics, it also has a SSD boot drive and three other drives, 4 Tb, 2 Tb and 750gb, this also upgraded with an issue.

Just done my normal day to day desktop and that also went without a hitch, but both my desktops are 8 months old, and my laptop is about 18 months old so maybe that helped.

I was running two ols pc’s for about 6 years for my editing but they got so slow and troublesome that I ended up biting the bullet and bought the two new systems and boy what a difference, especially the render times…

I mainly do family and my own stuff now as I am semi retired, but started using vegas for my weddings when vegas 4 was out..

I still have my first editing system I bought, its called Direct Ed, it cost about £800.00 about 20 years ago, it is a simple remote controlled device, that controlled two vcr’s and you had to load the program and graphics from a master tape to change any graphics, I thought is was magic until I tried Vegas, once I had I was hooked and never looked back..
Was thinking about giving it to a Photographic museum ..

Mick

[Angelo Mike]

I’m somewhat interested just because My Windows 7 is starting to glitch out and do things like boot up very slowly and I need to reinstall it. But I still wouldn’t take a chance on it until I could test it on another computer. As it is, I have no need to, and Windows 7 does everything I need (which mostly consists of not giving me a horrid interface like Windows 8).

[Bob Peterson]

Two points. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Microsoft has it right, and it goes back a long way. Make every effort to enable older machines to avoid obsolescence. Apple’s answer has always been very different. We’re going in a new direction so buy all new hardware and software or you will be left without support and no way to go forward. Microsoft learned when IBM used what is now the Apple strategy with the introduction of OS2. Microsoft countered with Windows 2.1, and left OS2 in IBM’s hands. Microsoft won that gamble because the new OS gave huge benefits without requiring all new hardware and software. IBM became a has been and eventually left the PC business. Some of the newer Apple fans simply have not yet been bitten by the “buy all new stuff” strategy yet. Others will simply continue to do what Apple dictates. In spite of all its faults, I will stick with Microsoft for the foreseeable future. I have a lot more freedom and flexibility.