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Will I have to render every little change I do on my timeline?
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So you advice converting all media to proress before editing in FCP?
Will that make it RT or at least more RT?By the way, I heard it’s better to use Media Manager to convert because Compressor introduces a gamma shift. But how do you go about using Media Manager for that?
“ProRes can also be set to the be the rendering codec of other timelines, such as XDCAM so you can edit natively in XDCAM but have all your renders in ProRes. “But XDCAM is no longer really native right? Sine you need to convert it to QT to import it to FCP. Is it still XDCAM then?
Also would setting the render only to proress be the same quality as converting to proress before editing? And do H264 (canon 5D and 7D)have that option as well? Thanks. -
[Adam Claude Jones] “So you advice converting all media to proress before editing in FCP?
Will that make it RT or at least more RT?”No, that’s not my advice. Final Cut Pro supports many formats natively, ProRes is one of them.
The amount of RT you get is wholly up to your system setup. We get RT with Uncompressed HD files on our systems.
[Adam Claude Jones] “By the way, I heard it’s better to use Media Manager to convert because Compressor introduces a gamma shift. But how do you go about using Media Manager for that?”
Never heard that about Compressor vs. Media Manager and they both use the same render engine to my knowledge.
Just look up Media Manager in the Help Menu and look at how to Recompress.
[Adam Claude Jones] “But XDCAM is no longer really native right? Sine you need to convert it to QT to import it to FCP. Is it still XDCAM then?”
XDCAM is edited natively in FCP.
[Adam Claude Jones] “Also would setting the render only to proress be the same quality as converting to proress before editing?”
Two different things. Converting makes all your media ProRes. Setting to just Render keeps your renders cleaner in the native timeline.
[Adam Claude Jones] “And do H264 (canon 5D and 7D)have that option as well? Thanks.”
We convert all H264 material to ProRes prior to editing.
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Yeah, since I use mostly H264 from 5D and 7D cameras and XDCAM EX and HDCAM HD, I think it would be a good idea converting it all to proress before editing. Do you convert XDCAM to proress too or edit natively?
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[Adam Claude Jones] “Do you convert XDCAM to proress too or edit natively?”
In most cases, native.
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[Adam Claude Jones] ” I thought proress was supposed to speed things up and was exactly made to mix and match since it’s an intermediate codec.”
Adam,
I think you’ve missed the point slightly.
Before ProRes, the principle alternatives were: 8-bit uncompressed, 10-bit uncompressed, and DVCPro. The uncompressed codecs were high quality, but inefficient. DVCPro was efficient, but had some drawbacks with regard to quality. ProRes was designed to do it all, as a high-quality and very efficient 10-bit codec.
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