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Will FCX be around for a while?
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X definitely should know somehow which keyword collection the clip came from when match framing. F should take you to the keyword collection it came from and shift F to the source in the event.
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[Charlie Austin] “Telling people that X is a completely “new way of editing””
I’m pretty sure that I never have. If anything, then I have said it is a completely “new approach to editing”. Which it is. And a far better one at that.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “I’m pretty sure that I never have.”
I was generalizing, but I hear “new way of editing” a lot. Either explicitly, or implied in the “relearn how you do things” sense. You *do* need to learn how the App works, and how to use all the unique features but honestly, editing is editing right?
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I think the “new approach” or “new way” of editing quotes can put some switchers off. In reality I still edit the same way as I always have when using FCPX, the new tools that it offers makes that process quicker and more fun.
I can see how Bill’s approach to Editing in FCPX, where the Edit is substantially done in the prep work, is an advantage in FCPX, however the the speed in which you can look through your footage with the skimmer often negates the need for careful logging!
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[Herb Sevush] “[Tom Sefton] “Besides that, it’s easy to learn!”
Only if your a newbie, according to some. Apparently experienced editor’s brains are too full of other, older stuff to take advantage of it’s ease. “
It is commonly said that novices learn FCPX easily, implying that experienced editors have ingrained, difficult-to-change habits. While there is an element of truth to that, overall the novice experience is misleading.
More likely novices learn to do simple things in FCPX easily and don’t encounter the difficult parts — else they wouldn’t be novices. By contrast an experienced editor by necessity will immediately tackle J and L cuts, media management, multicam, etc. I’d like to see the novice who can figure out how to stabilize edited multicam clips on the timeline in FCPX.
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[Bret Williams] “F should take you to the keyword collection it came from and shift F to the source in the event.”
Seeing that any given clip can belong to any number of keyword collections, how could that possibly work? How is FCP supposed to know which of e.g. FIVE different keywords assigned to a clip you prefer??
Once in the event you can choose which keyword is relevant to you, so it’s a two in one. No changes needed.
And the key obviously would have to be something else other than just plain F. 😉
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[Oliver Peters] “there’s little or no difference in time between – a) assigning favorites and rejects and then slapping the favs into a timeline to fine-tune, versus – b) slap everything into the timeline and cut out the garbage. “
Sorry, but the difference is HUGE. Not even close to the same from a (globally) organizational standpoint.
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[Charlie Austin] “I was generalizing”
So was I. 😉 I didn’t mean to imply you meant me specifically.
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Seems you could easily add a small bit of data to the clip in the timeline that details WHAT keyword collection it was added FROM. IOW simply reproduce the browser state at the moment of addition to the timeline. Maybe it was a search, smart collection, favorites, or keyword(s) collection. But to bring up that state would be really helpful.
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[Oliver Peters] “The difference is that Apple is willing to drop a product that is successful and profitable at the height of its popularity.”
Being which product exactly? Certainly not FCP. No idea what the continued “they killed FCP!” &%$ is all about, since they factually did not. Whether one is happy with the changes, agrees with the politics, execution etc. etc. or not is actually irrelevant to the facts.
[Oliver Peters] “Generally that’s not true of the others”
Right. Because products such as DS or GoLive etc. etc. etc. were absolutely hated and not used by anyone? 😀 Like I said (rather implied)… double standard. And seemingly selective logic as well?
[Oliver Peters] “They stopped development and stopped sales.”
So which other product does that not apply to after its latest update/upgrade? I’m really curious. Have any of the other big A’s continued development of prior versions of their software? I sure don’t know of anything, but am more than willing to be enlightened. And, again, whether one agrees with the tactics or overall execution of any given update/upgrade in any of the cases is irrelevant to the overall point.
[Oliver Peters] “And you say THAT with a straight face!”
Sure I can. The technology of all of the above is factually within FCP X. Even Motion code is (clearly) heavily present.
But to the actual point: are you going to guarantee anyone that any of the big A’s will still be around with their current suite of software in e.g. 5 years? No? So how does Apple i.e. FCP X pose some sort of special exception? Because that’s the “logic” I’m unable to follow.
[Oliver Peters] “There’s little evidence of that in the real world. If anything, the numbers are with Adobe at this point, if you go by casual observation. In spite of all the lovely spotlights in FCPco and other sites showcasing facilities using FCPX, those are largely outliers still today.”
Like I said. Whilst on the subject of (pure, unsubstantiated) conjecture…
But then I guess you can show me “evidence of that in the real world”, right? :-))– RK
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