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why would anyone want to use FCPX (SERIOUS discussion – no bashing)
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[Steve Connor] “Premiere has a feature where if you hit the “tilde” key then that panel goes full screen”
Sorry if I have no idea which area of FCP’s interface I could possibly ever want full screen and have it make any practical sense whatsoever. Other than the Event window or the viewer… both of which are expandable to full screen. The viewer either way and the Event/Media window when using two screens, which I do. But then having that (and various other areas) expand full screen without seeing the viewer seems pretty nonsensical anyway. Other than maybe for the “because… I want to!” fraction. 😀
I personally find PPro’s interface to be a painfully convoluted mess, getting worse with each version. AE is getting there, too. PS has already been there a very long time. Just downright arcane, cobbled together tab-panel-buttoned hell. In which case I can very much understand why you would need that functionality, yes.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “But then having that (and various other areas) expand full screen without seeing the viewer seems pretty pointless anyway. “
Lots of use two screen, so you don’t think having a complex timeline full screen on one screen with a viewer full screen on another screen is any use?
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Okay, I’ll give you the timeline. So if they added that option… what else? What important interface magic would you perform other than that, that FCP is in such need of IYHO? 🙂 A a tilde key??
– RK
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[Steve Connor] “complex timeline full screen on one screen with a viewer full screen on another screen”
That would be nice. Interestingly enough, the interface reacts differently on a laptop than when using one screen of a dual screen configuration. Not sure about a single screen iMac. On my MBP, I can set the UI to only display the viewer and the timeline without events. Not possible on my MP.
As a reminder of what used to be possible with FCP “classic”:
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/better-editing-with-custom-screen-layouts/– Oliver
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[Robin S. Kurz] “What important interface magic would you perform other than that,”
How about tabbed timelines or even something liked PPro’s “pancake” timeline layout? Or maybe re-arranging where things like the inspector appear?
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Okay, I’ll give you the timeline. So if they added that option… what else? What important interface magic would you perform other than that, that FCP is in such need of IYHO? 🙂 A a tilde key?? “
Just being able to save a custom workspace would be just fantastic 😉
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[Steve Connor] “Just being able to save a custom workspace would be just fantastic”
Like I said, I agree.
– RK
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Another nice UI enhancement would be that when you have two viewers up, you are able to play the source or timeline video from controls at the viewer. Not, having to highlight the source clip in the event in order to play it.
Like other NLEs 🙂– Oliver
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[Michael Paul] “So far it doesn’t make any sense to me since I come from programs like Avid or Premiere.”
Best advice is to forget about Premiere and MC and how things are done there. This is a different way to work. Trying to force an MC or Premiere “way of doing things” on X is a recipe for frustration. I would look into Lynda.com FCPX Essentials class or the Ripple training to get solid basics down for the X workflow.
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[Oliver Peters] “How about tabbed timelines”
In which way are tabs functionally any better than what it has now?
[Oliver Peters] “PPro’s “pancake” timeline layout?”
To what advantage exactly? For what? Things like selects or B-roll timelines and the likes?
In Premiere? Yes, definitely needed. Great feature in the context of Premiere, no doubt.
[Oliver Peters] “re-arranging where things like the inspector appear?”
Where for example? Where in the interface could its functionality and purpose be of greater use? Other than maybe for the one or other one time task, such as changing the library settings? And, I’m assuming, moving it next to the library window just for that would benefit me… how? Again, I don’t see it, other than for mere reasons of “just… because… everyone else does it that way, so it must be right/the best”. But you probably have a more convincing example?
It certainly could be taller though, yes.
[Oliver Peters] “when you have two viewers up”
Something I have had a full one time since its existence, as every other X editor I know. So I couldn’t comment. But there are simple shortcuts and the tab key.
– RK
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