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Why should I pay for your obscure-use scenario?
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[Tom Wolsky] “Boy, that so takes me back to 1999.”
Or even 1989.
I remember facilities with multiple $2M online rooms buying ONE Avid for $60K or so and putting it in a walk in closet or nook in the hallway or in the back corner of some room. It was an inexpensive technical curiosity with resolution so low it was barely serviceable for offline work. Faces couldn’t be identified and hand movement was fuzz balls.
I worked at one facility owned by a multi Emmy award winning editor who had invested heavily in two CMX6000s as first NLEs complete with a room built to burn the discs. He bought one of those toy Avids and took a look at the picture quality and said it was entirely unusable even for the roughest of offlines
. . . a year later they were offlining a nationally syndicated TV series and several TV specials. All using a bevy of freelance editors they had so much work coming in. They had two Avids by then along with the two online rooms which had become online only since all offline was done on Avid. They had only one client left still booking one of the two CMX6000s because the owner himself still refused to learn how to use the Avid.
Somewhere someone is going to have an FCPX toy room . . . and one day it wont be a toy (maybe). Guess who’s going tog get the freelance work when they see a year of FCPX experience that few others will admit or have.
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Chris Stevens
Member Since:
June 29th 2011Not to belabor this, but it seems a tad fishy that people who joined in the last few days go into a rah, rah sales pitch for the FCPX new engine – it doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. You may be real, but where have you been for all these years? You just found the cow? I certainly haven’t seen any new joiners who are critical of FCPX.
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[Chris Stevens] “The original FCP had the ‘indies’ chasing complex workflow, working jobs they hate so they could buy software with a feature-set they didn’t need.
They are the middle children of history, with no purpose or place. “
lol, ah to be young firebrand, blissfully ignorant. go get em kid. and thanks for the laugh. i mean that, more power to you.
btw, with FCP7 i can and do edit programs for both youtube and network. I can and do deliver clients finished videos on whatever medium and to whatever specs they demand. I can and do ingest formats from decks, camcorders, as well as every digital format currently available. I can and do share my timelines, my xml’s, my omf’s with media professionals all over the world. So good luck with your brave new world.
Just another middle child of history, having apparently, no purpose or place.
Jim Carey
Director of Video, Radical Entertainment
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[Chris Stevens] “Isn’t it going to be the best of both worlds? The ‘indie’ gets to keep costs down with a set of strong core-features from the FCPX-backbone, the ‘pro’ gets niche-support using tools from third-parties who have much more vested interest in supporting those legacy workflows.”
I don’t disagree at all. A modular approach could work. The number of moving parts in a workflow may get a little scary, but there’s nothing unworkable about a modular approach per se.
The point of my post was to remind you (as an indie) of your roots. The pro’s “niche tools” and “legacy workflows” that you are so handily dismissing have subsidized the creation of the low-cost, “strong core-features” you have today — not the other way around.
As each generation of technology and each generation of media producers disrupts or displaces the generation before it, I think a little appreciation for history and respect for those who paved the way is called for. Build some good karma, you know? You may need it soon, because…
[Chris Stevens] “Then, eventually, the ‘pro’ can evolve into the indie.”
… I think this is backwards, too. If history is any guide, the indie will evolve into the “pro” and then been displaced again by the next wave.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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I’m real. I think. This is me. Been reading the forums here for a few weeks and felt that the other side of the debate wasn’t being represented here. The ‘pro’ has been representing his case, thought the ‘indie’ should too.
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Now, I believe he has been hosing/operating a small one man radio station up in Cicely, Alaska.
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Yes, you accused me earlier of being an apple employee, like I said before, I have an itinfoilhat for sale if you need one..
As to the original OP, very well said. Why should apple cater to 5% of the market when third parties can take that role? I DO understand the frustrations of many on here, but you are in the extreme minority weather you like it or not.
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[J Hussar] “Not to belabor this, but it seems a tad fishy that people who joined in the last few days go into a rah, rah sales pitch for the FCPX new engine”
I don’t think I’m exaggerating (too much) when I say that the release of FCPX has been the most polarizing event in the post industry since Avid took on CMX.
I’d certainly expect that an event of this magnitude would encourage a lot of post professionals to sign up and share their opinions. We may disagree, but I think we should welcome their participation instead of automatically questioning their motives.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Well, that’s cool. But I thought it was super cool thinking you were a fictional character from Northern Exposure. Ah, well. You’re passionate and real, so, welcome!
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[Herb Sevush] “You are who FCPX was targeted at. I am not. I used to own a Harley, I took it into the shop and my mechanic turned it into a moped. It works for you, your commuting to work, you can save some money. It doesn’t work for me, I’m going cross country.”
That is awesome.
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