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  • Why pay double for CalDigit 8 bay vs Burly box 8 bay?

    Posted by Dan Riley on May 16, 2007 at 3:25 am

    All I want is RAID 0. My backup solution is firewire drives per project.
    No need for the RAID to be protected. I’ve run for three years with a
    RAID 0 situation with zero failures, and I was protected by firewire
    drives the whole time, so this has been a proven solution for me.

    CalDigit wants $7300 for an 8 bay, 6 TB box with card, now shipping.
    I can buy the same 8 bay, 6TB box from macgurus Burly box
    and Sonnet card (or CalDigit card) for $3800.

    If the speeds are the same, which they appear to be,
    why spend the extra? What do I get for the extra scratch?

    Dan

    Shane Ross replied 18 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    May 16, 2007 at 3:41 am

    The HD Pro is capable of RAID 5 and 6…the Burly isn’t. Raid 5 and still 375MB/s of throughput…usually performance drops when you Raid 5. That is what the extra scratch gets you. Don’t need Raid 5, then don’t get it. Burly makes great boxes. Very durable, good reputation.

    The HD Pro will also be networkable…accessable by multiple machines. eSATA solutions are single station solutions only.

    If you want a good inexpensive RAID 0 solution, then go with Burly. Good guys, great enclosures.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Dan Riley

    May 16, 2007 at 4:41 am

    Oh, now Shane, new info there.
    The HD Pro is networkable?
    And it’s not eSATA?
    What is it?

    Dan

  • Shane Ross

    May 16, 2007 at 4:58 am

    HD Pro is PCIexpress…says so right on their site:

    https://www.caldigit.com/HDPro.asp

    “With up to PCIe 8-lane interface to the host, each lane can reach up to 250MB/s, this in turn means that as you add drives, the HDPro scales in both capacity and performance.”

    Also, look at the AJA test…note the graph. Not ONCE does the array have a huge dip. On other drives, including my Duo, home made Raid, and even the G-Speed (look at g-tech’s site), there are one to two spikes…spots where performance drops for a second or two. The HD PRo doesn’t have that spike…nice and steady.

    And it has a GUI interface, e-mail notification if something is awry. TCP/IP interface so you can check up on it remotely via the internet.

    As for networkability…I might have let slip something I shouldn’t…yet.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Dan Riley

    May 16, 2007 at 5:20 am

    Decisions decisions….
    Steady speed is important of course.
    I notice their graphs for their 5 drive line are also pretty steady.
    Could it be the CalDigit card is the key to this?
    The Fasta 4e card could be used if I bought a Burly 8 drive set up too.
    But the new HDPro, that’s a different card, one that does multiple RAIDs.

    They have told dealers they are shipping the HDPro so hopefully
    someone will get ahold of one and do some comparisons.
    We won’t be buying until July.

    Thanks,
    Dan

  • Jeremy Newmark

    May 16, 2007 at 8:24 am

    [Shane Ross] “The HD Pro will also be networkable…accessable by multiple machines.”

    Shane is there any more info or literature about this? This could make this a very interesting product.

    best regards,

    jeremy

  • Joe Murray

    May 17, 2007 at 1:39 am

    I’ve just started using the Caldigit HDPro over the last couple of weeks and so far am impressed. The PCIe connector is a very stable physical connection compared with SATA, and the speeds are as advertised. I’m only about half full on a 4TB unit right now (usable space is only about 3.2 due to RAID 5), so I can’t say if performance changes as the drives fill up. Haven’t seen the GUI yet, and there is one other limitation – I can only use 2 Gigs of RAM at present due to a driver conflict. But the redundant power supplies and fault tolerance are great for peace of mind.

    Joe Murray

  • Bill Crawford

    May 17, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Hi Joe,

    Would you contact me off list – I have a couple of questions about your experience with the HDPro.

    Thanks – I’d appreciate it.

    bill_crawford(at)harborpictures(dot)com

  • Jon Schilling

    May 17, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    Just some FYI information for those in this thread.

    Most solutions aren’t scalable like ours.
    Most don’t have a dedicated CPU, and RAID engine like we do.
    Other products don’t allow you the capability of upgrading cache memory, we do. (256MB standard, upgradeable to 2GB)
    Will be a SAN solution, (we’re developing software now).

    Jon Schilling | Account Manager
    CalDigit Inc.
    Storage Solutions that work for un-compressed SD & HD, Photography & Audio
    http://www.caldigit.com
    Tel: 714-572-9889 X234
    Fax: 714-572-9881
    e-mail: jons@caldigit.com
    Skype me: cgijon
    msn: mpujon

  • Jon Schilling

    May 17, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    The limitation on the 2 Gigs of RAM have been addressed with our latest driver on our website as of last night.

    https://www.caldigit.com/support.asp

    HDPro Driver: Driver for Mac Pro and G5

    Jon Schilling | Account Manager
    CalDigit Inc.
    Storage Solutions that work for un-compressed SD & HD, Photography & Audio
    http://www.caldigit.com
    Tel: 714-572-9889 X234
    Fax: 714-572-9881
    e-mail: jons@caldigit.com
    Skype me: cgijon
    msn: mpujon

  • Bob Cole

    May 22, 2007 at 12:46 am

    [JonatCalDigit] “Will be a SAN solution, (we’re developing software now).”

    Do you mean that an existing product will be a SAN solution when the software enables it, or are you talking about a yet-to-be-announced box?

    — Bob C

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