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Why one user Switched to FCPX
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[Shane Ross] “And I always, ALWAYS like to export masters in a high-end format, such as ProRes, for archiving. In case I need the master later for ANY reason (and typically I do…often). “
Yeah. This is REALLY easy with FCP X. I set up an export with MP4. Then do a Multitrack Quicktime with audio roles and no titles for archive. Get my MP4 upload to FB and/or Youtube and then by the time I’m done with that, I have my Multitrack Quicktime for archive which I can re-edit into other pieces because I can control the audio tracks.
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Brett Sherman
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[Oliver Peters] “You might enlighten the crowd here how your set-up works (or doesn’t) with Premiere Pro. Shared storage? Media formats?”
Were hooked up to an ISIS using mostly prores proxy or prores LT/422 depending n the source. Sometimes lots of mixed formats. Sort of typical shortform workflow except we get a lot of random formats from clients.
Even with Proxy its flaky.
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Their business model is doing 2018 work on 2010 hardware?
That just seems kinda nuts.
The hardware advances in speed and efficiency I’ve seen in the last 8 years have been nothing short of immense. I remember how my own FCP X work took a huge efficiency leap when I revved my hardware in late 2015.
You have my sympathy, Neil.
That’s got to be terribly frustrating day to day.
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[Bill Davis] “Their business model is doing 2018 work on 2010 hardware?
That just seems kinda nuts.”
When you have 50 edit bays…upgrading machines, and then typically the shared storage as the new machines won’t mesh with the older servers…can be a HUGE expense. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So yeah, it might take a while to build up the capital to afford to do that. It’s easier when you are a sole operator, or have a handful of machines.
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[Shane Ross] “When you have 50 edit bays…upgrading machines, and then typically the shared storage as the new machines won’t mesh with the older servers…can be a HUGE expense. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So yeah, it might take a while to build up the capital to afford to do that. It’s easier when you are a sole operator, or have a handful of machines.
“Yes but it’s nearly EIGHT YEARS! If they hadn’t written off the costs and covered the financing years ago then that IS nuts!
Assuming of course that they got them in 2010 🙂
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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[Bill Davis] “Their business model is doing 2018 work on 2010 hardware?
That just seems kinda nuts.
The hardware advances in speed and efficiency I’ve seen in the last 8 years have been nothing short of immense. I remember how my own FCP X work took a huge efficiency leap when I revved my hardware in late 2015.
You have my sympathy, Neil.
That’s got to be terribly frustrating day to day.”
Appreciate the sympathy Bill – its not as bad as it sounds and somehow we still manage to push out award winning Trailers,TV spots and commercials everyday and under intense deadlines.
Want to know the reason why they wont upgrade the machines?
Because it is an Apple ecosystem and they havent come out with anything expandable since then!
This company wont spend all that money on 50 plus bays unless there is a roadmap for upgrade and expansion and our tech director knew the trashcans were a deadend before they came out. So here we are stuck with Cheesegraters. Ive tried to sing the gospel of the Imac and Imac Pro but no ones listening and Im just a lowly offline editor in a big pond.
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[Steve Connor] “[Shane Ross] “When you have 50 edit bays…upgrading machines, and then typically the shared storage as the new machines won’t mesh with the older servers…can be a HUGE expense. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So yeah, it might take a while to build up the capital to afford to do that. It’s easier when you are a sole operator, or have a handful of machines.
”Yes but it’s nearly EIGHT YEARS! If they hadn’t written off the costs and covered the financing years ago then that IS nuts!
Assuming of course that they got them in 2010 :)”
Really has naught to do with cost – but expandability and upgrades which is lacking in Apple’s current hardware run. For example, we all have Aja cards, need a place to stick those cards and our TD wont invest in anything without a roadmap for upgrades and expandability so we can future proof.
Hopefully the yet to be announced MPro of the future can fix these issues.
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[Neil Goodman] “but expandability and upgrades”
Have they expanded and upgraded the 2010 Mac Pros? FCPX used to run very well on my 2008 Mac Pro with Sapphire 7950 card
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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Tell me if I’m wrong, but in both Premiere Procc and FCPX, you can set up batch rendering to multiple file outputs. In Adobe Media Encoder, you can have it simultaneously be cranking out the ProRes 422 master AND the youtube video for upload, and this is also possible to set up in FCPX. Or am I wrong?
Sure, you likely take a performance hit but I’m guessing getting both done at once is still a bit faster than rendering them out sequentially? Tell me if I’m off base here; I can take it.
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Hi Neil –
Mr. Doom and Gloom here.
you write –
“Hopefully the yet to be announced MPro of the future can fix these issues.”I will faint if that happens. No manufacturer (AJA, Blackmagic) is going to be excited to write NEW drivers for free for eight year old hardware. And even if that happened, with the release of macOS 10.13 High Sierra and SIP (System Integrity Protection) it’s a nightmare to install drivers for even current hardware like ATTO, Promise, Sonnet, etc. Apple is becoming more and more uncooperative with third party manufacturers (think NVidia) – why ? I don’t know – probably money. So at this moment, if you think the “new” non existant Mac Pro will be what “we all dream of” – a new computer from Apple that can run any third party hardware that we desire – well, I think that is a big pipe dream as of 2018. Not that the computer won’t ultimately come out – but a dream that you will be able to install legacy hardware or anything else that your company desires to put into this new Mac.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com
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