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  • Why new final cut X is so RESTRICTIVE with connected clips? I DO NOT SEE ANY BENEFIT

    Posted by Jb Yong on November 10, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    I am coming from final cut 7 and I have no idea why new final cut X is so restrictive in having primary storyline and connected clips. I loved how in FC7 all clips were independent in timeline and gave you freedom to move and organize your clips however you wanted.
    Now I have to take extra steps or jump through hoops to move clips around becaused they are connected to primary storyline. Like I have to create secondary storylines. Really??
    I do not see any benefit to connected clips except that it automatically follows primary storyline when you move clip around – which most of time I do not want it to do. We should be able to turn this off because I do not see any benefit to connected clips with primary storyline.

    FCX is dictating how we organize clips on timeline which is way more restrictive than FC7. This is just wrong.
    Also bring back enable tracks. Why in the world did they remove tracks. Tracks work and is easier to visualize and organize clips in timeline. Like if I wanted to disable audio or video for a track it was just one click in FC7. Now there are extra steps in FCX They should enable this for people who are use to tracks.

    They should really talk scold to whoever mad scientist who wanted to make FCX more restrictive than FC7 and impose their workflow on everyone else.

    I like magnetic timeline where you can move clips around and other clips will automatically move to make room for it. This save time.
    So can we disable connected clips and let us enable tracks just like better easier to use FC7.

    David Lawrence replied 11 years, 6 months ago 13 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Nikolas Bäurle

    November 10, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    There’s actually an override connections command you can use if you wanted to move primary clips withouth the connected ones.

    FCPX is simply a different software than FCP7. Trying to use it like a traditional NLE will not get you very far.
    Most that have actually masterd the magnetic timeline find it to be faster and more flexible than working with fixed tracks, especially since you don’t need to keep your tracks organized during editing, in order have a good overview of the sound. Exporting audio with roles is faster.

    Now, there still are several things that need improving, and certain workflows work better with other NLEs. But that has always been the case with editing software.

    You should check out tutorials by lynda.com, Ripple Training or Larry Jordan to get you started.

    “Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

  • Andy Neil

    November 10, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    This rant sounds like every track-based editor on Day 2 of trying to learn FCPX on their own.

    Andy

    PS: Hold down the tilde/grave key (~) when swapping clips in the primary storyline to freeze connected clips in place.

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos

  • Paul Figgiani

    November 10, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    This video explains it.

    -paul.

    Video

  • David Mathis

    November 10, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    [Andy Neil] “This rant sounds like every track-based editor on Day 2 of trying to learn FCPX on their own.”

    I was butting heads with the new timeline at first, mainly because I did not understand it. Some time, practice and patience has paid off. Really do not miss tracks at all now, though my personal preference is to work with audio in traditional tracks. Video, not so much. Feels a bit awkward using tracks now. In all honesty, X makes editing fun again. At least from my perspective.

  • Scott Witthaus

    November 10, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Agreed. Slow down, do the training and learn “create storylines”….

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Marcus Moore

    November 10, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    [jb yong] “I like magnetic timeline where you can move clips around and other clips will automatically move to make room for it. This save time.
    So can we disable connected clips and let us enable tracks just like better easier to use FC7.

    But here’s the thing, you CANNOT have a magnetic timeline with FCP7 style tracks. If you did, the point of tracks would be completely undermined, with clips bouncing from track to track.

    A track is a kind of analogue metadata, in the same way as a bin was in FCP7. While I admit the solution isn’t complete, in the end I believe Roles will perform the same function in the timeline that keywords and Smart Collections do in an Event.

    But Roles tagging needs improvement- here’s some recent thoughts from my blog,

    https://disproportionatepictures.blogspot.ca/2014/10/roles-redux-part1.html

  • Robin S. kurz

    November 10, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    [David Mathis] “my personal preference is to work with audio in traditional tracks”

    If you think about it, getting rid of tracks in a DAW would also make zero sense in comparison. Audio follows a completely different paradigm where something such as the primary story line would make for no advantage whatsoever, since there is no such thing. As opposed to video.

    – RK

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  • David Lawrence

    November 10, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    [Robin S. Kurz] “If you think about it, getting rid of tracks in a DAW would also make zero sense in comparison. Audio follows a completely different paradigm where something such as the primary story line would make for no advantage whatsoever, since there is no such thing. As opposed to video.”

    Nonsense. Audio and video are both time-based media and can both be treated similarly in terms of multi-channel representation in a 2D GUI. For example, consider multi-channel video installations, where there may be any number of simultaneous video streams presented at once. There is no “primary/secondary” relationship is such work. There are many other examples as well.

    The Primary/Secondary paradigm in FCPX is a simplification that echoes A/B editing and it brings benefits to many workflows. But many of us treat video like audio on the timeline, which is why many of us like tracks.

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  • Charlie Austin

    November 11, 2014 at 12:08 am

    How timely… Some hack just had an article on this topic posted on the cow. 😉

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  • Andy Neil

    November 11, 2014 at 12:09 am

    [Charlie Austin] “Some hack just had an article on this topic posted on the cow.”

    Standard Click-bait.

    10 REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD LOVE THE MAGNETIC TIMELINE. NUMBER 7 WILL SHOCK YOU!!!

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos

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