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Why most of the the “Trainers” are so positive about X-FCP
Lucas Werneck replied 15 years, 1 month ago 17 Members · 33 Replies
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Scott Sheriff
June 25, 2011 at 8:14 pmRon,
I would agree with what you said. At least 99%/ I’m not sure if you read my ‘mommy bloggers rules’ thread.
Every product has some spokesperson. Many are paid, some are getting in-kind, or comps. There is no shame in any of that, and it doesn’t necessarily invalidate their opinion. But disclosing those relationships, not matter how small gives the rest of us a baseline to go by.
There is a local political talk show host here that always tells the callers “Tell me where you sit, before you tell me where you stand”. I like this philosophy.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
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Simon Ubsdell
June 25, 2011 at 8:54 pm[Micajah Smithson] “Apple just opened them up to a lot more potential purchasers of their training”
You better believe it – Larry Jordan proudly boasted of the 1.2 million hits ot his website within the first three hours of the release. Can you even begin to imagine how much money that will translate into in earnings for him?
Of course, he’s going to be positive – he’s just found his goldmine. Doesn’t matter what he thinks about the actual product, he’s just gonna keep on a-smilin’ all the way to the bank!
I can’t quite indentify why but I don’t like that particular state of affairs.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Ron Lindeboom
June 25, 2011 at 9:22 pm[Andree Franks] “Oh one thing I don’t like about some leaders and users here is the arrogance and how rude they are!”
You find it odd that artists and professionals can sometimes be arrogant, opinionated, and rude? They are people that work in very stressful situations, make decisions in the crucible that often can affect a lot of money, but their confidence and expertise allow them to make decisions that regularly hold up under pressure. They have often built this strength and ability over decades.
Yet, most of the time they are graciously answering people’s questions and offering support and do so with great willingness to help others — even those who are competitors.
I guess you missed that part — eh, Andree?
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
Publisher, Creative COW MagazineCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
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Ron Lindeboom
June 25, 2011 at 9:30 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “You better believe it – Larry Jordan proudly boasted of the 1.2 million hits ot his website within the first three hours of the release. Can you even begin to imagine how much money that will translate into in earnings for him?”
Only 1.2 million “hits” in 3 hours??? We do that kind of traffic in minutes here at the COW, Simon. “Hits” do not mean anything, as a hit can be a page load or any graphic, video, file or anything else on a page (which can be hundreds on a page) — and most advertising agencies and ad buyers will NOT buy a thing from you based on “hits.”
It is a meaningless and totally arbitrary metric that is so outside the realm of quantification that it holds no relevance to people who work in advertising.
Now, “unique visitors,” now there’s a metric that people will buy and pay for.
All kinds of claims can be made when they are outside 3rd party verification, and that’s why I love Google, Alexa and Quantcast, etc.
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
Publisher, Creative COW MagazineCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
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Simon Ubsdell
June 25, 2011 at 9:34 pm[Ronald Lindeboom] “It is a meaningless and totally arbitrary metric”
I think you’ll find, Ron, that (aware as I am of the limitations of the indicator) I was speaking rhetorically without due regard for numerical accuracy. What struck me about this story of the 1.2 million hits was Larry’s typically self-aggrandizing boasting about it!
Suffice it to say, that whichever way you cut it, Larry (along with the other lucky “trainers” who got advance copies) is going to be making a ton of money out of Apple’s decision to create a brand new product ex nihilo.
Simon Ubsdell
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Sohrab Sandhu
June 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm[Ronald Lindeboom] “A healthy dairy farm, as I learned growing up on one, is made up of Holsteins, Guernseys, Brown Swiss, Jerseys, Ayrshires, and a few others that strengthen the overall herd as they swap genes, bringing their best characteristics to the whole. You often start with pure breds, but you build your dairy with them to insure that the “destination” of the herd is one in which the gene pool is diverse and strong, protecting it from becoming merely a bunch of sickly in-bred “pure breds.””
Brilliant writing! Very impressed. Reassured too, that i am in safe hands as far as COW is concerend.
Proud to saw COW has been my Godfather in the industry or should it be Godmother? 😉
Sohrab
2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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Thomas Frank
June 25, 2011 at 9:59 pmRonald Lindeboom, your answer to my comment sounds like you felt attacked from em. hmmm?
A course humans are arrogant, opinionated, and rude not matter what situation which many as in myself are and where in.Besides I am not talking about the them that “most of the time“.
Tell me what do you would call if someone asked a simple question and the answer you receive is (What a stupid question)?
Offering support?Besides you can not defeat competition with knowledge. But your signature quote Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
which I really like. 🙂
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Hector Berrebi
June 25, 2011 at 10:27 pm[Shawn Lloyd] “it seems very disingenuous, and a bit insulting to the collective intelligence of the professional community. Sadly, I feel like both Apple and the evangelist / trainers are all loosing a lot of credibility.”
Shawn
trainers train people, that’s what they do. you would be surprized how many people actually want to learn FCPX
[Shawn Lloyd] “Do they not realize that 90% of their piers feel exactly the opposite?”
90%… how did you come up with these stats, you haven’t checked this… you are just writing it out of passion and disappointment.
whether i feel the product is complete, adequate or currently usable in a professional environment does not mean i will stop what i do for a living (partly) and refuse to properly learn it, and offer the best training i can to others who want to as well.
and i will not teach anything that is not true about it…
your comment, and this thread… and some other recent threads in this room
have a mob/posse attitude[Andree Franks] “Oh one thing I don#t like about some leaders and users here is the arrogance and how rude they are! :p
got to go…”as long as you are just saying it without valid examples and links… your comment is rude and even a little stupid.
peace and love
hector
Hector Berrebi
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Thomas Frank
June 25, 2011 at 10:37 pmHere you go: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/6038
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Craig Shields
June 25, 2011 at 11:18 pmI didn’t perceive it that way at all. Jordan was saying that there were more people curious about FCPX than he anticipated. There are a lot who are remaining quite and learning the program before they rush to judgement.
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