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Why is Log and Transfer gone?? Am I the only one puzzled by this?
Is it just me, or was the ability to log an individual clip BEFORE ingesting it onto ones machine a brilliant idea? I was adding naming, metadata, clip by clip, getting rid of the garbage, only bringing in the good stuff.
Neither FCPX or PPRO offer this anymore. Its like they’ve gotten together with all the hard drive companies and swung a deal cause now I need more disk space.
Can anyone suggest another way to do this? I still use FCP7 for now…
Prelude is Ok. Again its meant for mass ingesting of footage, not clip by clip, naming, etc.
Brutal.
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As most file based camera formats in use today would have to be de and re-compressed to ingest only a section, thereby losing a generation- this makes plenty of sense to me vs. tape-based legacy formats. On the one’s that aren’t that way you can still mark a specific range to ingest:
https://larryjordan.com/articles/fcpx-select-ranges/
Noah
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Had to recapture a few clips recently on a project. Ended up using FCP 7 which I keep on an older machine. I can’t speak for the companies, but I’m of the opinion that digital cards for capture effectively ended the need for it for most people. I do wonder about the million of tapes still in existence in archives. It’s not like we won’t ever need to bring that footage in with more accuracy than a crash capture…
Mitch Ives
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My BMD card comes with batch capture / edit to tape software. Doesn’t AJA / Matrox?
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With FCP Legend media had to be transcoded or rewrapped into a FCP friendly format (which meant creating new media) so having the Log and Transfer function around made sense. Why transcode all the raw footage when you only wanted half of it?
With X or PPro you can choose to work with the camera footage itself (no requirement to create new media via transcoding or rewrapping) so the need to pick and choose beforehand isn’t as relevant.
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AJA does as well. Works pretty good too.
Andy
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Yeah I “log and transfer” in the camera these days….
Noah
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Uhm…guys, you are talking capturing from TAPE. Log and Transfer was how FCP imported from TAPELESS media. It allowed one to mark IN and OUT points and import only what they wanted, and not bring in the full clip. ANA/BMD hardware, and the capture interface…doesn’t work with tapeless media. Unless you are playing it back from a tapeless deck, like Ninja or KiPro…
But apples and oranges…
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I’m doing hundreds of hours of DV, Betacam, and 3/4 with the BMD capture software through a BMD Teranex. Works great.
Jim Wiseman
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The new AJA software works very well too. If I wasn’t uprezzing to HD I would be using it for archival capture.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2, Final Cut Studio 2 & 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC: 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500: Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro Retina 2015, i7, 500GB, M370X 2GB: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems -
That was true with codecs such as DVCPROHD, which were not the long-GOP formats which are much more prevalent today. If you wanted to ingest a section of say a GoPro clip- you’d be de-compressing and recompressing and losing a generation of your already highly compressed footage before you even started editing.
That vs. copying the entire clip onto your drive and only losing a single generation when you go to export the final timeline which is what the FCPX import window does.
So it’s not really the import process that changed so much as it is the formats that are being ingested.
Noah
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