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  • Steve Connor

    September 22, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Seriously – go X – I’m all for it, it feels like nothing can touch that tagging system – besides, I’m just carping from the cheap seats. This forum was heaven sent for that.

    How’s things going in London? Are you seeing any real shifts towards PPro?

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    September 22, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Sky is taking Pr and CC on for all internally generated brand and marketing apparently? – I was cutting Bradley Wiggins Sky cycling marketing stuff with it out there last week.

    No CC yet tho – still negotiating licensing terms with adobe or something.

    i’ll say one thing that I’ve started to love quite a bit – opening out a bin into hoverscrub tiles – the bin is elastic with them resizing? You can have a second monitor with multiple bins as big tiles to scrub through – that’s really nice for scrubbing for b-roll. It’s like a half way house to X.

    I’m ok with the marker system too – if you get organised and do markers with durations and write little notes – the marker panel can be a really really nice thing too.

    And – he said for the millionth time – the keyframing apparatus is killer – having to invoke the transform controls each time with the little icon in the keyframing section is a bit different.

    Given how incredibly fast premiere is advancing – if it wasn’t stymied into CC – you’d really think it would start eating up an awful lot of market share.

    I can’t believe they just went native no render round trip to speedgrade that quickly. that was insane.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    September 22, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    that aside – how’s it with you? what are you cutting with mostly?

    how do you like Pr CC? Given the largely failed religious war on the other debate forum I passed up the opportunity to get CC for buttons off being a CS6 owner.

    I’m possibly regretting that a tiny bit. Felt I wouldn’t be holding up my end – but adobe really seem to have their adoption numbers sussed.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Steve Connor

    September 22, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I can’t believe they just went native no render round trip to speedgrade that quickly. that was insane.”

    That might be a big moment for Adobe, now if Apple could give us the same with FCPX and Resolve….

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Oliver Peters

    September 22, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    [Steve Connor] “That might be a big moment for Adobe, now if Apple could give us the same with FCPX and Resolve….”

    I don’t see that happening. It works with Adobe because Premiere CC and SpeedGrade CC share a common color engine. As I understand it, when you apply a grade in SG, this is manifested via Direct Link as an added Lumetri filter effect onto the clip back in Premiere. Lumetri can carry any number of SG grading layers within a single effect. Each application of this filter links back to a LUT that is the result of the grade in SG. For example, if you apply 2 primary, 7 secondaries and 5 filter layers onto a clip in SG, this info is boiled down to a single grade file under-the-hood, which then links to that single Lumetri filter applied to that same clip once it’s back in Premiere.

    In theory, if you used the Baselight Editions plug-in with FCP X, you’d technically have that same result. For all intents and purposes, that’s also what Magic Bullet Looks, Tiffen DFX and DFT FilmStocks do with X. The downside is that there is no real FCP X plug-in architecture, so all of these methods are severely hampered when it comes to performance with unrendered clips. Until Apple opens up some of this to developers, you won’t see an improvement. That’s why you can’t get the same level of performance from a complex grading filter like Hawaiki Color, as you can with the built-in Color Board.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    September 22, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    that resolve editing timeline does look eerily familiar tho. you’d wonder if there isn’t a major industry reveal with 10.1 X.

    if apple provided an answer to, say, the timeline gripes, say with audio timeline role tag lanes that allow the exact same drag and drop meta data addition as there is for clips dragged to event keywords, while meanwhile also providing next generation direct resolve CC interchange – you’d have to figure that’s game on. It really seems like the davinci guys instinctively like the apple guys. they’re basically sharing a GUI lunch.

    mounds of potential popcorn from the cheap seat there.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Oliver Peters

    September 22, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “that resolve editing timeline does look eerily familiar tho. you’d wonder if there isn’t a major industry reveal with 10.1 X.”

    Well… Maybe. I think it’s just that BMD’s UI designer likes the FCP X look and is copying it as much as possible. I guess he didn’t get the iOS7 memo 😉 I’ve been working with the Resolve 10 public beta. I can tell you that looking at this in any way, shape or form as an editor is a real joke. Yes, you can do some rudimentary edits and trimming, but it’s really just designed to conform from a list and then do some last minute tweaking. Even calling it an “online editor” – which is what they did at NAB – is pretty far from the truth.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “Here’s the full vid- He says what he has to say about the FCPX update at 54:45.”

    Thanks for posting this. It all makes sense now!

  • James Ewart

    September 23, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    I dunno I understand you think he might have been blobbing it up a bit for his own ends but if the budget is 60 million or even 20 million that’s pretty interesting too.

    It obviously raised an alert on your bullshit radar which may be fair enough – perhaps he exaggerated a bit or was exaggerated a bit to. But “Making up stories” is tantamount to calling him a liar which is a bit strong dontcha think?

  • James Ewart

    September 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    where is the link please

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