Why is Larry Jordan making up stories?

[Oliver Peters]

[Chris Harlan] “Maybe there actually are significant, powerful changes in this next X, which is Larry’s other recent odd, unsubstantiated blurb. And maybe there is something going on behind the scenes that we can’t see. “

While this is all quite likely and there will certainly be updated features in 10.x, Larry also states not having any advanced knowledge. Methinks he knows just about the same information (plus a few dropped hints from insiders) as do those of us who drop into this forum.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Chris Harlan]

[Oliver Peters] “Methinks he knows just about the same information (plus a few dropped hints from insiders) as do those of us who drop into this forum.
“

I’d agree, other than his statement seems to be based on something, whether its facial expressions from this mystery editor or something else.All I’m saying is that I’ll give him the benefit of my trust that he’s not just blowing smoke for Apple, or making things up out of whole cloth. Even if it turns out that there is nothing there, I’ll just assume he was wrong instead being manipulative or lying.

[Oliver Peters]

[Chris Harlan] ” I’ll I’m saying is that I’ll give him the benefit of my trust that he’s not just blowing smoke for Apple. Even if it turns out that there is nothing there, I’ll just assume he was wrong instead being manipulative.”

While he might have been given some hints, I’m guessing that he’s simply reading the tea leaves like the rest of us.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Marcus Moore]

While that’s true- I think as Chris suggests he has a closer relationship to Apple directly, so his sources are likely to be much better placed an his information much more accurate.

The was a fervour between the “sneak peak” in Feb and the NAB 2011 unveiling of FCPX. If Larry is being truthful and hasn’t been engaged in any way by Apple, then perhaps they’re looking to keep things mum enough to under-promise and over-deliver.

Pretty much no one saw LogicX coming- so Apple can still keep secrets when it doesn’t have thousands of foreign workers handling the upcoming product.

[Chris Harlan]

[Oliver Peters] “While he might have been given some hints, I’m guessing that he’s simply reading the tea leaves like the rest of us.
“

I guess. But this thread is basically calling him a liar in regards to conversations with mystery editors on Bulgarian 100M films, so that’s really what my response is about.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Craig Seeman] Larry Jordan: “Sam is currently working on an unannounced feature film with about a $100 million production budget. The producers, director and editorial team spent six months researching what software to use for post-production. They choose Final Cut Pro X, because of some of the tools I’ll show you later in this presentation.

So he did talk to Mestman and this is not the EPK setups Mestman wrote about in the FCPCO article.
“

Not to beat a dead horse here but Larry is referring to exactly the same production that mestman outlines at fcp.co. It is the EPK job. they are both talking about exactly the same job. A job where FCPX is – specifically – assigned to cut the EPK material for that $100 million dollar production in process?
Its producing below the line marketing materials. Its not being used to edit the film. read Larry’s line again:

“an unannounced feature film with about a $100 million production budget. The producers, director and editorial team spent six months researching what software to use for post-production.”

tell me that doesn’t read as X being nominated as the editing platform for that film.

Mestman again:

…“your system [FCPX] is immediately going to be put to use editing EPKs for a major motion picture, and eventually handle editorial for that studio’s films moving forward.”
the real part of that sentence is what FCPX is assigned to do on that production: cut EPKs, marketing materials.

Now tell me that reading Larry’s take on it isn’t quite likely to make you draw the conclusion that X is cutting that film.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Chris Harlan] ” But this thread is basically calling him a liar “

that is incorrect – I think he is, perhaps inadvertently mis-representing FCPX’s role in that production – it is clear from the original article that X is being used to cut epk’s. larry relies pretty heavily on it as an example of X working with the big boys, and he seems to, pretty clearly, represent it as being the editing system cutting that feature, he refers to it a number of times in that fashion, he also says he spoke directly to the editor for that feature, and that the editor outlined to him the reasoning behind picking it – I just think its weird that the editor didn’t finish that sentence with “picking it to cut below the line marketing materials.”

I think a lot of people have been pretty keen for a Coen brothers moment for X – and I don’t doubt its coming. I just think it would be possible to walk away with the impression that X is cutting that 100 million dollar mystery feature from an unnamed big six studio – when, reading mestman’s article, it seems pretty clear its not?

all so confusing…

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Craig Seeman]

I think Larry is referring to the project Mestman is about to start. That they are both $100 Million films may make it confusing.

In the article
Anyway, that’s what the last two weeks of my life looked like. I’m writing this on the plane ride back from Bulgaria.

So he’s not currently working on the EPK project. The article was written after that was completed. Given his “couple of days’ stopover in NY, he was on to his next project (current project) at the start of IBC.

[Chris Harlan]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “[Chris Harlan] ” But this thread is basically calling him a liar ”

that is incorrect “

As I said earlier, I get the discomfort over the fuzziness of it all. I think, though, that when you call a thread “Why is Larry Jordan Making Up Stories?” you are casting aspersions, whether that is your intention or not. It could have been called “Does LJ know what he’s talking about?” or “What LJ’s Saying Makes No Sense,” but the title specifically accuses him of making things up.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Craig Seeman] “I think Larry is referring to the project Mestman is about to start. “

nope. he’s not.

For starters, there is no editor and prod crew for him to talk to about why they made the decision, in the past, to adopt X – when in the article mestman makes it clear that he is basically taking a meeting in NY to discuss X’s involvement on another film in the future.

Larry is referring to the 100 million dollar production that mestmans article refers to – they both cite that it isn’t officially named yet and everything, Larry makes a gag about it at the supermeet – larry also refers to the fact that there was a long run up to the decision to nominate X – again – mestman clearly stated that he was going to attend an initial meeting about another film in a couple of weeks. not six months ago.

i don’t see how larry can be talking about the film mestman is in preliminary talks about, when he’s talking about decisions made to employ X six months ago.

there kind of is no getting around it craig. you can only think that larry jordan was weirdly mis-informed about X’s role in the production, such that he repeatedly referred to it as the nominated editing system for post production on the mystery 100 million dollar film from one of the hollywood majors.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics