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  • Greg Janza

    October 5, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    yeah I can see the ipad as a potential. not for me personally though. Computers have already done significant damage to my body so ipad editing sounds like more repetitive motion pain.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Gabriel Spaulding

    October 6, 2017 at 12:45 am

    Final Cut Studio functioned for SIX YEARS after the release of FCP X —it still functions if you don’t update to macOS High Sierra or keep an older machine around. It seems to me that six years is a pretty long period of time with which to decide which route you want to go. Yes, the launch was bad. And it was a long time ago. I’ve seen people get over national tragedies in far less time.

    Gabriel Spaulding
    Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
    Videographer | Video Editor | Motion Designer

    How Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
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  • Gabriel Spaulding

    October 6, 2017 at 12:52 am

    Apple’s Pro Apps run much faster on lower powered machines than are required to run Premiere Pro (for example) at similar speeds. This is not a critique of Premiere Pro —I am merely pointing out that the Pro Apps are better optimized and specs alone do not always paint an accurate picture of reality.

    Gabriel Spaulding
    Creator & Director of ACE Enterprizes
    Videographer | Video Editor | Motion Designer

    How Can We Help You Tell Your Story?
    http://www.aceenterprizes.com

  • Neil Goodman

    October 6, 2017 at 1:26 am

    [Bill Davis] “But opting to NOT keep up with the revisions and improvements in X – was a bold bet that you’d NEVER need anything it might provide – in the future.

    Bold move there. “

    Haven’t you essentially done the same thing regarding the other NLE’s?

    What if at some point PPRo or dare I say it..Avid or not to far fetched – DaVinci comes out with a hot new feature or workflow that everyone in the industry unanimously agrees is the bees knees and what post people everywhere have been waiting for? Wouldn’t you be a little bummed if you didnt have a little knowledge of said NLE so your transition into it was smoother?

    I mean heck, thats why I made it a point to learn FCPX. I didnt want to be left behind if it indeed becomes a standard at places I work, has that payed off yet – not at all but I dont consider it wasted time.

  • Greg Janza

    October 6, 2017 at 2:15 am

    [Gabriel Spaulding] “I’ve seen people get over national tragedies in far less time.”

    Gabriel, you win for single best line in this long thread.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Greg Janza

    October 6, 2017 at 3:06 am

    [Bill Davis] “Not when off the shelf with APPLE is CRUSHING it for me.”

    I was an unhappy Apple customer because I took a look at what other options were out there and I discovered that the competition had a wide variety of offerings that delivered superior performance and were cheaper.

    But if you’re happy that’s all that matters.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Andy Patterson

    October 6, 2017 at 3:21 am

    [Gabriel Spaulding] “Apple’s Pro Apps run much faster on lower powered machines than are required to run Premiere Pro (for example) at similar speeds. This is not a critique of Premiere Pro —I am merely pointing out that the Pro Apps are better optimized and specs alone do not always paint an accurate picture of reality.”

    If I switch of GPU acceleration on my PC, FCPX can play more layers of H.264/AVCHD on the Mac Mini than I can using Premiere Pro on my PC. If I enable GPU acceleration on my PC it will kick the crap out of FCPX running on the Mac Mini.

    If you have a low spec laptop with an i3 CPU and no dedicated GPU and edit h.264/AVCHD then FCPX will have a big performance advantage over Premiere Pro. FCPX uses Intel’s Quick sync but that is nothing to brag about because Premiere on a PC with an i7 and GTX 1060 can hold it own against a $3,000.00 Mac Pro. You FCPX users leave that part out.

    Performance on a low spec system is a non issue because my Mac Mini costed $990.00. A $990.00 PC running Adobe would out perform FCPX on a $990.00 Mac Mini hands down for editing. FCPX would render faster for h.264/AVCHD but that is all. I admit FCPX would run better on the Mac Mini than Premiere Pro but like I said it is a moot point when you put Premiere Pro on a PC against FCPX. FCPX will loose every time! Keep in mind a $699.99 Mac Mini using FCPX will render h.264/AVCHD faster than a $6000.00 Mac Pro.

  • Tony West

    October 6, 2017 at 3:41 am

    [Herb Sevush] “If guys were posting misinformation on YouTube why didn’t Apple’s marketing department post solid information to counter that on both their web site and social media?”

    I agree Herb. They should have been on that.

    The first real push back I remember was the tekserve Schechtman video. I remember thinking at the time that Apple called on him to get out there and rescue it. He knew way too much about the program too early on to not have been part of the team in someway. I still would like to know the story behind his appearance that day.

  • Bill Davis

    October 6, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    [greg janza] “Any editing app made for an iphone is created by a team of sadists.”

    I get the point.

    But edit PREP can be kinda glorious.

    That opinion is based on using Lumberjack and an iPad to apply tags and ratings during shoots.

    I can also see a whole boatload of content keywording – color assessment – audio monitoring – and a thousand other things AROUND the actual editing that iPads could help with – either running directly in – or even just separately but “linked to” some future mobile friendly implementation of some or all of FCP X.

    We’ll see.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Bill Davis

    October 6, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “The risk isn’t money. It’s time. How do you invest the time to figure out a whole new system when you have clients making demands right now? How do you move a whole shop or production onto a new workflow — without skipping a beat?”

    Obviously the ONLY justification is if you become convinced that the scarce asset you invest up-front (dollars, training, time or whatever) – will yield you greater savings in the long run than you would have if you didn’t make that investment.

    That’s pretty much the central focus of money-making for all of human history.

    Often the smartest path is to take a small efficiency hit today – in order to gain a larger and on-going efficiency boost later.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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