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  • Frank Giardina

    December 30, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Hi Peter…

    Over all the HDV and ProRes footage seem to get along OK. I was concerned about capturing the HDV ProRes… you and Shane both mention space as a concern, and space is an issue for me at this time.

    Thanks

    Frank

  • Bob Dix

    December 30, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Hi Casey,

    I may be splitting straws, I thought the House Videos were shot on 3 Canon 5D Mark II’s (which has the bigger 35mm sensor and amazing lighting ISO range). The movie look to-day is no where near the movie look of say 15 years ago, Quote” Chief Projectionist V Cinemas ” A quality 35mm film is still better than digital for colour etc.)” In my opinion a very good 1920 x 1080 HD digital production not degraded to so called “Cinema” now, is superior or equal to film say 40 years ago ?

    Freelance Imaging & Video
    AUSTRALIA

  • Michael Sacci

    December 30, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    [Richard Harrington] “You are suffering from not knowing what you don’t know”
    That is a golden saying. Love it.

    We are living in a time where we need to know the entire workflow to get things right. While we can all afford to buy stuff that are being used by the big boys there is no easy/quick way to pick up and shoot. A person still has to put in the time and effort. But the good news is that there is a ton of info and help available that wasn’t around for the old timers.

    There are many good resources out the Richard/Robbie’s book is a great one, covers A-Z, informative and walks you through what you need to know to get a firm foundation.

  • Chris Wright

    December 31, 2010 at 6:07 am

    I know I’ll get reamed for this but…

    imho the Canon 5D Mark II does way better 24p than the 7D. If there is any slight difference between movement and frame interval in the circuitry, you’ll get funky jerkyness even with blur on, same problem with the GH2. Guess which camera costs more and was used for TV shows.

    You can actually fix this stuff with timewarp/twixtor in AE by creating new frames then decimating down to 23.976. removes all jerkyness.

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  • Deleted User

    January 1, 2011 at 12:44 am

    [Chris Wright] “… you’ll get funky jerkyness even with blur on, same problem with the GH2 …”

    Do these GH2 & GH1 1080p24 videos look “jerky” to you?

    They look fine to me. Very fine.

    https://vimeo.com/18155086

    https://www.vimeo.com/13982269

    Cheers.

    https://www.peterdv.com

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  • Chris Wright

    January 1, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    I have no problem with the color. It’s great. I’m specifically talking about motion.
    Here’s a motion example. Ignore the compression quality, this just emphasis motion. Watch closely the water, swans, carousels. etc.

    The other clip was fine because nothing moved in frame. Search other clips for cars driving past, etc. It’s not as smooth either.

    swans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SGVmtg4RFY&feature=channel

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  • Deleted User

    January 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Hi Chris: Happy new year.

    The old GH1 clip you linked to appears to have been shot using a shutter speed that is too high to produce smooth motion. This is sometimes done on purpose as a special effect (such as in “Saving Private Ryan”), or as a cheat to achieve acceptable exposure but with the undesirable side effect of staccato-like motion.

    The 2 GH2 clips I linked to in my previous reply certainly do contain motion. The motion looks perfectly fine to me. Very smooth. These 2 clips were shot recently by experienced DPs.

    Both of those clips were shot using the GH2’s 1080p24 “24H” mode at 1/50th or 1/60th shutter speed. These shutter speeds will produce motion characteristics in 24p video typical of 24fps film shot with a 180-degree shutter.

    The GH1 & GH2 can also record video in 720p60 mode, which is useful for creating slow-motion effects in post, or for producing footage with a extra-smooth, more “video-like” motion characteristic.

    Another cause of motion artifacts often seen in online videos is pulldown incorrectly removed from GH1 video shot as 1080p24 in a 60i wrapper. However, this is typically not an issue with GH2 video shot using its fully-progressive 1080p24 “24H” mode, since this footage contains no pulldown.

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  • Chris Wright

    January 1, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Happy New Year to you too.

    I’m trying to find footage from a GH2 that has contant motion in one direction, like a pan or car with 1/30th. I’m focusing on the GH2 over the GH1 to eliminate the pulldown variable.

    here’s a 24p test with a low shutter but I still see the jerkyness.
    I’m really trying to sell myself that it works as well as the markII.

    here’s ice skating at 1/30th sec

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    Ice Scating – 12/18/2010 – Torture test 1 from Paulo Teixeira on Vimeo.

    You have to go full screen to watch motion. Also,the camera seems to handle smaller objects better than large objects.

    In comparison, this canon 5d markII 24p footage is almost psychedelic.

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    Rain Drive with 5D Mark II HD Footage from emmagination on Vimeo.

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  • Deleted User

    January 2, 2011 at 3:09 am

    Hi Chris: I shot the following two tests with my GH2 today:

    GH2 24p “24H” @ 1/50th second shutter:

    https://vimeo.com/18354845

    GH2 24p “24H” @ 1/60th second shutter:

    https://vimeo.com/18355024

    Both 1080p24 clips are approx. 15-sec. long. I re-wrapped the camera-original .MTS files to QuickTime .MOV files without recompression so more people can play/edit them. Vimeo members (free) can download the less-compressed files. Details on the Vimeo pages.

    Both the Vimeo-compressed and camera-original versions of the files play smoothly on my MacBook Pro 17 via QT & VLC.

    Compare, contrast, discuss. Cheers.

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  • Chris Wright

    January 3, 2011 at 3:52 am

    here it is smoothed out with timewarp at 23.976. I think this is what it would look like with a canon 5d markII.

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    Untitled from Chris Wright on Vimeo.

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