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Why does PP2 make applying “source/media” timecode to numerous clips so hard?
Okay, here’s what I want to do. I need a TC burn for footage I digitized with scene detect in PP2 for my client. Using scene detect I have a pile of clips on my timeline. I want to generate the clip’s source TC (or as PP2 calls it “media” TC). Well, in order to do this, I have to apply the TC effect to each individual clip. I have like 200 clips on my timeline so even pasting the effect is a total drag!!!
I figure nesting the clips might able me to TC burn all the clips — well, no way. I can generate timeline TC but not the source clip which my client needs to select the best takes (timeline TC generation is usually totally useless).
So, I then move on to creating a transparent video track — no go. Again, only the timeline TC shows, not the actual shot clip’s TC.
So, now to generate a TC burnin dub, I need to hand paste 500 clips spanned over 5 shot DV tapes. Wonderful!!! What a pain in the as#.
I guess in the future I can capture an entire tape wityhout scene detect then I’d only need to deal with one clip per digitized, but scene detect saves me a lot of time and ables me to better manage my clips.
Can’t PP2 have a master video track like Vegas, you apply effects to that track and it applies the effects to all your timeline clips. What could be simpler?
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It seems like a waste of time to capture all these clips in order to then output them so the client can pick the correct ones. Just do what we do. Make a TC burn of the original tapes to VHS or DVD and let them look at these instead of capturing everything.
Ken Adolph
Media Group
Editor/Post Supervisor
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What happens if you create the desired effect, copy it, select all the target clips, and then paste …?
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>it seems like a waste of time to capture all these clips in order
>to then output them so the client can pick the correct ones. Just
>do what we do. Make a TC burn of the original tapes to VHS or DVD
>and let them look at these instead of capturing everything.Here’s my workflow:
Step 1, I digitize all my shot tapes (sometimes with scene detect sometimes not, depends on the material).
Step 2, I immediately output an MPEG1 or a DVD-R with burn in TC for my clients. The MPEG1 is for clients who prefer working and taking notes from their computers, the DVD-R is for those who prefer taking notes from a TV/DVD player.
Working in DV, I capture everything, most of my work is only 7-8 DV tapes max. I don’t bother with select takes, I digitize everything as I’ve got 200G system drive and a 500G RAID. I often find when I don’t capture everything I wind up going back to the original tapes looking for shots we thought we wouldn’t be using but now need. Also, capturing everything is a great extra backup in case tapes get lost or damaged.
So, I guess when it comes down to it, if you click the scene detect option when capturing in PP2 and wind up getting a thousand clips from 7-8 digitized tapes — you can’t realistically cut and paste TC for each clip to make a TC window dub.
>What happens if you create the desired effect, copy it, select
>all the target clips, and then paste …?The effect is only applied to one clip, not to all the selected clips. As I said, you could nest a sequence and apply an effect to all, but TC showing the clips original TC doesn’t work, it defaults to the timeline TC unfortunately.
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Here’s your solution:
1. Apply the TC effect to the first clip in the sequence.
2. In the Effect Controls panel, select the TC effect and hit Ctrl+C to copy it and its parameters.
3. Use the Track Select tool to select an entire track starting with the second clip in the sequence.
4. Hit Ctrl+V to paste the copied effect on every single clip in the track.
5. Pat yourself on the back and go get a beer. 🙂 -
Thanks Jeff, I’ll give that a try later tonight and see if it works.
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I have a similar problem right now.
I am working as the visual effects & post artist on a short film for our school, the University of Texas at Arlington. We shot the film on Sony HDV and they are doing the edits-only cut at school using Final Cut. I’m on a PC using PP 1.5.1 and Cineform Aspect HD 4 at home. The school doesn’t have the software for the effects work that I’ll be doing plus I’ll be creating a 24p graded master with Magic Bullet in After Effects, which is why I’m working from home.
Anyway, I captured the clips that needed effects (23 total) so that I could work on them in After Effects and PFTrack. So I took the EDL printout that was given to me that was exported from Final Cut and captured the clips that I needed from a total of four tapes using the Media Start/Media End information on the EDL. My thought was that I would export out of PP the edited In/Out points from the EDL but would have the whole clip available just in case. Seems like that made more hassle than anything else!
After capturing the clips, for instance, 05:21:01;17 – 05:21:44;13 on Tape 04 I needed to be able to find the edited In/Out points, which were 05:21:28;09 – 05:21:36;04. Unfortunately, what I found after capturing the clips was that PP did not give me the timecode of the clip based on the original timecode from the tape. It shows the Media Start as being 00:00:00;00 and Media End as 00:00:43;29. So I am unable to determine, quickly, where my In/Out points should be according to the EDL. What a pain! Now I’m going to have to re-capture everything, using specifically the EDL In/Out timecodes rather than the Media Start/End timecodes.
Does anyone know if PP has the tape timecode info anywhere? I didn’t log any timecode when I did the capture. I only entered timecode, captured, let Aspect HD transcode, and then I moved on to the next clip. If anyone has a clue, let me know. Thanks!
Luan
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