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  • Why does FCP include an extra black frame when I set the out point and can I change this behaviour?

    Posted by Elijah Lynn on April 6, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    I just exported 11 videos, converted them to to H.264 with Compressor 3 and then embedded them with JW flash player.

    Some of the videos end on a black frame while others do not. I investigated further and noticed that most of the videos in final cut had an extra frame and the cursor head was actually one frame short of the out point when “go to out” with shift+o was performed.

    It is odd that some of the videos with the extra frame in FCP did actually end with the appropriate frame in JW player. All of the videos the ended in black in JW player did have this issue in FCP.

    So, why does this do this? I have noticed now that if I do a max zoom and set a in or out that it is one frame ahead.

    So when I seek my out points I usually do it be “prev edit/next edit” and then “mark out”. Is there a way I can change this behaviour?

    Any ideas on this would be great.

    Cheers.

    Elijah Lynn replied 15 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Elijah Lynn

    April 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Also what is the best way to trim just one frame. I am going to try mpeg streamclip but if anyone has some wisdom for the fastest way to do this that would be great. I assume compressor would recompress the video.

  • Alexander Kallas

    April 7, 2009 at 2:26 am

    How are you setting the outpoint?

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Bill Davis

    April 7, 2009 at 4:08 am

    When I’m grabbing clips out of an edited stream, I’ve just gotten into the habit of using (down arrow) to set the playhead on the first frame of the next clip. (next edit) then Command I to set the clips in-point. Then (down arrow) plus (left arrow) — a simple one-two hard to screw up keystroke — to set the playhead on the LAST frame of the clip prior to the edit. Then export and name the clip to taste.

    Next edit ALWAYS puts the playhead at the first frame AFTER the edit. That’s where you want it. But it also means that if you use NEXT EDIT to mark the END of something, it’s ALSO going to be at the first frame after the edit, which is gonna be black if that clip isn’t butted up to the following clip.

    Essentially, it’s not a bug – it’s a feature. Allowing you to automatically mark the proper in point at the start of each “next” clip. No way the machine can know that you want NEXT EIDT to mean something at the start of a clip, but something ELSE at the end of the same clip. So just use the back arrow and you’re good to go.

    Hope that helps.

  • Kevin Monahan

    April 7, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Try “X” – Mark Clip. That sets the points the way you want.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Elijah Lynn

    September 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks Kevin and everyone else for clarifying this. I just had “mark clip” working fine and then it stopped working and is marking the whole clip on v1 and not v3 like I want, I tried setting the patch to v3 but no go. What circumstances might be present for “X” to not mark the clip correctly?

  • Elijah Lynn

    September 10, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Found it:

    Mark Clip (X): Click to set In and Out points at the boundaries of the clip that
    currently intersects the Canvas/Timeline playhead. The clip on the lowest-numbered
    track with Auto Select enabled is used.

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