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Why do you think a new Mac Pro ISN’T coming?
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[Richard Herd] “Buy the i7 and a Tbolt array and use X.”
4 lane Raid’s are not fast enough for my workflow, at least in my experience.
[Richard Herd] “Then buy Bill a beer.”
Gladly.
[Richard Herd] “Push a button, one button — all five cameras are magically (i mean, metadatally) sync’d.”
If you shoot with matching timecode Legend has been a one button sync machine for years, so I’ll save the $300 for something useful.
[Richard Herd] “You don’t like it? There’ll be 25 recent grads who’ll buy it. Or maybe Bill will.”
No Bill was quite adamant that X should not have a multicam feature that could handle more than 8 angles – he didn’t want the programmers wasting their time and spending their source code allocation making a 25 angle multicam feature. He couldn’t imagine anyone needing such a thing. I’m guessing that now that’s he’s cutting a 14 angle multicam music video he’s doing it with an Avid.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Steve Connor] “I’ll be sad that we’ll all have to stop talking about it when the new MacPro is announced in the next couple of weeks”
You (and I and I’m sure many others) will be sad if in fact Apple simply kills off the Mac Pro.
However, if they release a new Mac Pro, with everything everybody wants … Wouldn’t we simply start up the discussion about whether or not this new Mac Pro is now their last Mac Pro.
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[Paul Jay] “Thunderbolt Broadcast I/o and storage works just as flawless as on a pcie.”
And you say that having a lot of experience cutting multicam on this system? Just asking because I had to pony up a lot of money to get some seriously fast Raid storage ( 900 MB/s ) to handle my multicam requirements. So how fast does your Tbolt storage run?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “All I want is clarity – kill it or not, just let everyone know so we can move on.”
But then you wouldn’t break down and buy the 2010 model so that Apple can empty out its inventory.
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[Gary Huff] “But then you wouldn’t break down and buy the 2010 model so that Apple can empty out its inventory.”
That actually augers in favor of a line refresh. If they are EOLing there will be a rush to buy the last remaining units for spares and so on. It’s only if they are bringing out new models that you have to coerce the unwary to buy out the old line at full price.
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[Steve Connor] “and I’ll be sad that we’ll all have to stop talking about it when the new MacPro is announced in the next couple of weeks :)”
The coolest thing for Apple — they’ll sell an almost infinite number of these things. Mac Pro fans will hoard them like gold, or freeze-dried chicken a la king, to prepare for the coming “abandoning pros FOR REALS this time” apocalypse.
All the while, lamenting what this machine SHOULD have been, but can never possibly be. As a result, Apple releasing the kind of Mac Pro that Apple ALWAYS releases — underspec’d in nearly every way but silver-ness and Mac OS X-ness — will be nevertheless seen as a portent of said apocalypse.
There is always another shoe to drop.
And if Apple doesn’t say what needs to be said in a couple of weeks, it will be raining shoes.
If the axe has indeed already fallen, I agree with others who have said that “Apple is just selling off inventory” seems unlikely. It’s more likely that have pretty accurately gauged inertial demand, and are just making enough of them to both hide that it really HAS been EOL’d, and not leave that money on the table.
I mean, Apple EOL’d FCP in 2009. You could even argue that they EOL’d it in 2007 (the ProRes release), and 2009 was that last patch slapped on while it was circling the drain.
2011 is just the year they stopped SELLING it — not because they had excess inventory, but because there was no reason to leave that money on the table for all those years.
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Given Tim Cook’s expertise is supposedly managing the channel, I also can’t see any which way that the MacPro is still being sold because of overstock. It’s there because the channel has to be up and running for the quick changeover to whatever replaces it.
Personally I think there’s some doublespeak going on. IMHO the MacPro, as we know it, is dead, There will be a replacement. So if someone says the MacPro is dead they may well be correct. If they said Apple is no longer going to be making Xeon based computers, I think they’d be wrong.
Personally I think Jim Darlymple values his reputation too much to say something that wasn’t a certitude. Something is coming. We can guess about the name change and the form factor but it’s coming. It will have Thunderbolt and it will have Xeon CPUs.
As to the portion of revenue, Apple’s goal is to increase that. Either something is dropped or it’s changed. My guess is the latter. Whatever replaces the MacPro would probably fill a broader market than the current tower does. I also don’t think Jonathan Ive is destined to spend the rest of his carrier tweaking iPhone and iPad case designs. What replaces the MacPro will be the next notch in his design belt.
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[Steve Connor] “and I’ll be sad that we’ll all have to stop talking about it when the new MacPro is announced in the next couple of weeks :)”
The next related fire will start. We’ll be arguing over the design changes Apple made.
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[Craig Seeman] “The next related fire will start. We’ll be arguing over the design changes Apple made.
“At least it will be different ground to cover.
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[Craig Seeman] “The next related fire will start. We’ll be arguing over the design changes Apple made.”
Or why it can’t support 14 GPUs and seventeen raid cards, and 1/2 TB of RAM, when a laptop/iMac and thunderbolt raid will do 800MB/sec, capture 3G SDI video, and playback native red footage on a paltry 32GBs of RAM in a $2500 chassis.
Cue the LouisCK “everything’s amazing” video!
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