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  • Why do the grey bars in all settings under motion slip/slide when you edit keyframes?

    Posted by Josh Evans on June 6, 2008 at 10:26 am

    OK here is a question I have actually wanted to ask for ages, but have become so used to seeing it in FCP I almost dont notice it anymore:

    When You double click on a clip in the timeline, then go into the motion editing tab,

    why do the grey bars in all the settings under motion slip and slide around wehn you edit keyframes in them?

    Cant work out why.

    OK to be more specific:

    when you are in the motion tab…

    On the left, are attributes stacked on top of each other.
    On the right, are the keyframes for each atrribute.

    The keyframes appear in a light grey region, indicating the length of the clip. The dark area on either side of the light grey region indicates whats in front abd behind the clip in the timeline.

    Lets say I am editing keyframes for “Scale” attribute. Alot of the time (not always) when I am editing keyframes and moving them around, the light grey region will slip around left and right, so that it has shifted out of line with all the light grey regions below it, which are for the other attributes i.e. crop, opacity etc.

    I was just wondering what the reason for this is?

    Kevin Monahan replied 17 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • David Bogie

    June 6, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    the interface for FCP is full of gaping holes, lame affordances and stupid programming decisions.
    The whole keyframe paradigm is one of the worse. Since it has remained unresolved since v2, we can assume the code monkeys have other priorities and it will not likely be fixed soon.

    suggest you learn how to use Motion for your motion effects. It has issues, too, but that’s where the programming efforts have gone for several years. it probably resembles the next iteration of FCP’s interface.

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Josh Evans

    June 6, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    oh ok, i guess that makes sense, it has no purpose its just a screw up.

    Thanks. Just starting to learn motion now.

  • Kevin Monahan

    June 6, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    I know what you’re talking about now. Yes. I don’t understand why that happens either. Bogie’s right, the effects area of FCP hasn’t been touched ever, with very few improvements. Something tells me it won’t get better until they rewrite the code for the entire product.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Arnie Schlissel

    June 6, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    That grey area is a timeline. You can zoom in, make a parameter taller and move it to make it easier to manipulate the keyframes with more precision.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Chris Poisson

    June 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Josh,

    I know exactly what you’re talking about too. Sometimes clicking to another tab and back will refresh the view. But to Bogie’s point, keyframing in FCP is but one of the basic functionalities Apple have ignored for the past 6 or so years, in favor of glitzy crap no one needs that plays well in their stores. Don’t get me started…

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Kevin Monahan

    June 7, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    They other thing I hate about the keyframe interface is that it never “fits to window” (Shift + Z). They keyframes and light gray area need to be zoomed into every freakin’ time. It’s tedious. In a perfect world, you’d want the keyframes to fit to window every freakin’ time. Not being able to drag multiple keyframes or copy/paste them as you can in every other application that has keyframes is appalling-and from my standpoint—BROKEN.

    On the plus side, when I wrote my book, it is from the standpoint that FCP FX will never change–because it hadn’t changed from ’99-’04. Still hasn’t. Therefore, my book has shelf life until the code monkeys give us a totally new app.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

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