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Why are you shooting 24P?
Posted by Dave Kulawick on October 14, 2005 at 7:12 pmLike the subject line; I’m curious as to what the reasoning is that led you to shoot at 24P.
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David Kulawick
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Larry Sherwood
October 14, 2005 at 10:49 pmHi Dave, I use it when I want that particular”look” that the 24P gives me, totally an aesthetic choice, unless we are talking about a posible film out. Also remember the “economy” of shooting 24P, less stress on the computer, smaller file sizes, etc. . .
my .02 cents
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Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
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Barry Green
October 14, 2005 at 11:46 pmI use it because it delivers the motion rendition of film. It’s allowed me to completely replace 16mm for all the productions I would normally have relied on 16mm.
It also delivers a far superior DVD experience. When shot in 24P, edited in a 24P timeline, and output as 24P MPEG-2’s, you can master 24P DVDs which look dramatically superior to interlaced DVDs when played on progressive-capable DVD players to progressive-capable displays.
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Bruce Greene
October 16, 2005 at 6:28 amMany people are convinced that shooting at 24FPS is THE way to get digital to look like film.
Certainly the motion part of the equation will be film like, or like film shot at 24fps. Personally I think the color rendition and gamma curves have a lot more to do with the film look, but that’s another discussion.
A few years back it was common to shoot film at 30fps for video transfer to make the video look more like film! (by avoiding the 3-2 pulldown to convert the frame rate)
The most basic reason to shoot 24fps is for transferring the project to other formats.
Shoot at 24 fps and transfer to film for projection at 24 fps—simple frame rate conversion.
Shoot at 24 fps and transfer to PAL video (25fps) by just speeding up the show by 1/24th.
Shoot at 24 fps and transfer to NTSC video at 30fps by the duplicating a frame here and there (just like movies are transferred to video)
So 24fps is a good mastering format because it can be converted well to all the other common formats. If you shoot at 30fps (progressive) it looks really good on NTSC 30fps video but frames will have to be thrown away to convert to PAL or film projection at 24fps and that doesn’t look nearly as good as duplicating frames from 24fps for viewing at 30.
By the way Barry Green’s book for the DVX is wonderful and a must have.
-bruce
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Micah Et
October 16, 2005 at 1:09 pmhow is it that 24 fps looks better than 25 fps – or is it less clear and hence more film like.
micah
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