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Why Apple should let HP build its workstations
Michael Gissing replied 14 years, 1 month ago 21 Members · 75 Replies
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Jeremy Garchow
March 10, 2012 at 5:17 pm[Weston Woodbury] “Really? So, two companies that have hundreds of millions (or billions) of dollars in revenue, can’t do what one project is doing open source”
Who said they couldn’t? What I was referring to is the amount of effort. It would not be easy, that’s all.
Let’s not forget Lightworks has a pretty substantial hardware ecosystem it sells for real money.
As far as the other you linked to, I’d say Godspeed. I can’t use it as my needs go past a DSLR and a zoom recorder.
As I said, NLE on Linux is not a bad idea, but it’s not a simple venture as has been posited here.
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Thomas Mathai
March 10, 2012 at 7:10 pmWhat we call a workstation today may not be what we call a workstation by the end of the decade.
For our immediate needs, it would be nice to have a big tower with lots of space, if our needs today require using high end speciallized add ons that don’t come standard.
It’s possible to see that maybe by the end of the decade, the workstation could be the size of 2 or 3 Mac Minis stacked up. Think the original Apple Cube size, but light years faster.
We’re getting faster I/O, higher capacity storage, and more powerful chips that use less power. It’s very conceivable that our future workstation doesn’t need to be opened much if at all.
It depends on the needs of content creators too. A lot of them may be using high end iMacs or MacBook Pros because they don’t have the need for large workstations. Others need the large workstations because they require additional hardware.
HP released the Z1 all in one workstation, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that becomes popular with content creators. I’ve taken a look at one opened up, and it’s very modular. I’ve requested the screen be replaceable when they decide to make the Z2.
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Michael Gissing
March 10, 2012 at 11:38 pm“As I said, NLE on Linux is not a bad idea, but it’s not a simple venture as has been posited here.”
I certainly don’t think it is simple, but I see it as a good long term strategy as both Apple & Microsoft are chanting the “post PC’ mantra and both will be steering their OS developments to mobile devices.
Some of us in post want a machine room based grunt box with a robust OS not an iPad to edit around the pool.
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John Heagy
March 11, 2012 at 6:52 pm[Weston Woodbury] “As already pointed out here, DaVinci and Autodesk both figured it out, and surely their video dept. budgets are substantially less than Adobe’s or Avid’s.”
Linux is fine when the software/hardware combo is a single entity and not used for any other apps. It’s more of an embedded system mind set that just is not flexible enough to run in concert with other apps. Few people use only Avid or Adobe software on their systems.
DaVinci and AutoDesk are perfect examples of a app/cpu single purpose “box”. In both of these examples having other software installed would probably need to be removed before support would begin to help you.
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Michael Gissing
March 12, 2012 at 3:20 am[John Heagy]”Linux is fine when the software/hardware combo is a single entity and not used for any other apps. It’s more of an embedded system mind set that just is not flexible enough to run in concert with other apps. Few people use only Avid or Adobe software on their systems.”
Perhaps you haven’t been looking at Linux developments for a while. Yes it is always smart to avoid running to many types of software that may conflict with specialist hardware but Linux is not different to OSX or Windows in that regard. Many people like me have Linux computers based on Ubuntu that have lots of different software running.
In my experience Linux is better at running lots of different software than Windows. It is certainly easier to install and uninstall software in Ubuntu than any OS I have previously used. No need to tidy up registries or constantly repair permissions and preferences. I think you are confusing specialist systems that setup limited Linux kernels designed for one bit of software. I have such a system, Clark COnnect, as my ftp & web server. This is not typical of Linux distributions like Ubuntu however.
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