Who’s using Adobe Premiere Pro CC on a Share Netowrk (NAS)

[Alex Udell]

hiya…

quick sanity check:

Are you importing the spans via the media browser panel?

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

[Chris Brown]

Hi Alex

Thanks for your reply

Yep importing via the media browser, I’m aware of the problem with importing them incorrectly but this is a totally different issue.

After searching for weeks now a few people seem to have the same issue, it seems to only occur when working off shared storage. But there must be someone out there who is successfully working off shared storage, so need some advice and maybe a spec list from anyone? even better if they have overcome the same issue.

Chris

[Walter Biscardi]

[Chris Brown] “Everything was fine (a little slow at times) until we decided to invest in Adobe Premiere Pro CC. It seems that PP doesn’t like shared storage very much and we’ve had problems with spanned clips (from a C300) not arranging themselves properly once ingested.”

Zero problems here with that using both 1Gig and 10Gig connections off our Small Tree NAS. 7 primary workstations and a dozen or so secondary computers.

We did a television pilot a few months ago all C300, 7D and BMCC. Didn’t have a problem with any of that. All ingest done via the Media Browser.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Chris Brown]

Hi Walter

Thanks for the reply, interesting that you can use the 1gig connection without any problems. We feel that getting a 10gig would be a slight overkill for a small company like ours.

I’m wondering if buying a NAS with the capability of 10gig, but still use our current 1gig network would supply any speed improvements?

Just don’t want to go ahead and spend £8,000 on a whole new 10gig system if spending £4,000 on just new storage would do the job.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Chris Brown] “I’m wondering if buying a NAS with the capability of 10gig, but still use our current 1gig network would supply any speed improvements?

Just don’t want to go ahead and spend £8,000 on a whole new 10gig system if spending £4,000 on just new storage would do the job.”

One of the coolest things about Small Tree is they’ll be happy to chat with you on the phone about your setup and what might be the best and most inexpensive way for you to move forward. They sell all the components individually so maybe all you need is a small switch or a card or something else to get you moving along better. These guys are really the best at this, drop them a line or give them a call and tell them I sent you.

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[Tapio Haaja]

We’re running FCP7 on top of XOR Media Universal MediaLibrary UML (iSCSI + Blue Whale File system) through 1 gigabit ethernet connections to our Mac clients. Generally we get really good read/write speeds (110MB/s) and haven’t had big problems with FCP7.

Now we’ve started testing transition to Premiere Pro CC and there have been lots of strange problems. For example XDCAM HD is very very slow ang laggy when read from UML but IMX and Prores are fine. Also peak file generation eats all bandwidth. So Premiere Pro CC is definitely different beast than FCP7 when working on top of NAS/SAN.

I read somewhere Adobe doesn’t officially support working top of network share with Premiere. I think they should put more effort to this and give certificates to some systems they guarantee should work. And Adobe Anywhere is not the answer for most workflows.

Best
Tapio Haaja

Development & Production Manager / Promotions / MTV MEDIA (Finland)

[Chris Smith]

Hi Everyone,

For those working with premiere pro cc on a NAS setup over gigE. Where are you setting your media cache and the media cache database?

I have read mixed thoughts on having both of these on each system locally, and having the media cache on the NAS and the database locally on the client machines

I was also hoping to add metadata while edits are going on with Prelude (add tape names, add comments etc.) This works perfectly on a local system running both premiere pro cc and prelude at once. You can add metadata to clips and the changes are reflected instantaneously within premiere cc, the XMP seems to be updated on a local level. But when working over the network the XMP metadata does not update across the NAS. Is this because this data is stored in the media cache database? Or is it stored in the meda cache files? Anyone else trying to get some more metadata added at a clip level this way?

Know there is a couple of questions here, but we seem to have our NAS setup dialed apart from the media cache setings..

Cheers
Chris Smith

[Chris Brown]

**UPDATE**

It seems the latest update from Adobe has sorted the issue of spanned clips not importing properly when stored on our Synology NAS!

We’ve also been playing around with the various settings as we were having the issue of some files continuously creating new Peak Files

We’ve found with the following boxes ticketed the peak files are only generated once and the system seems to be working fine.

Wtite XMP ID File on Import (UNCHECKED)

Enabled Clip and XMP Metadata Linking (CHECKED)

Include Captions on IMport (UNCHECKED)

and our media cache files are also being saved to the NAS.

Hope this might help anyone who’s having a similar problem

Chris

[Craig Ricker]

BUMP – this is the exact question I have. Are people keeping the media cache on local hard drives or on the NAS?

Mac Pro 2.4Ghz 8 core, 24GB RAM, GTX 670

[Chris Smith]

Hi There,
We have been using an editshare field 2 connected via gigE and have found best performance and sharing across projects by storing the Media Cache on the NAS. It is then a shared media cache and saves time caching each time a project is opened on a different machine. We typically have about 7 Mac edit suites attached at any one time

Thanks
Chris