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  • Whoa. In/Out Duration 6 Frames Off?

    Posted by Andrew Traweek on March 7, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    I recently downloaded the Premiere Pro CS6 trial and loved it so much that I decided to ditch FCP7 altogether. Except…

    Center duration is waaaaay wrong.

    I set my in-point. I need an out exactly one second later. Always accounting for frame offset, I “+29” on the numeric keypad and mark it. The in/out duration now reads “1:06.”

    What the heck? The biggest deviation should only come from drop frame TC, and that’s 2 frames every first second of a minute.

    Something is brutally wrong. Like, Hindenburg wrong. Has anyone else run into this issue, or does Premiere handle numerical playhead positioning different than every other NLE?

    Andrew Traweek replied 13 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Andrew Traweek

    March 8, 2013 at 12:28 am

    Providing additional information:

    Cutting 1080p/23.976 in a 1080p/23.976 Drop sequence
    If I enter “+1:00” it gives me at duration of “1:01” as expected. But subtract a frame by “+:29” it, and it jumps to “1:06”

    I loaded plain old DV NTSC at 29.97, and it does not have the 6 frame offset issue. So to me it points to the 23.976 frame rate.

  • John-michael Seng-wheeler

    March 8, 2013 at 4:42 am

    [Andrew Traweek] “Cutting 1080p/23.976 in a 1080p/23.976 Drop sequence
    If I enter “+1:00” it gives me at duration of “1:01” as expected. But subtract a frame by “+:29” it, and it jumps to “1:06″”

    This is exactly as it should be. If you want one frame less then a second you need to enter 23 frames, not 29 since you’re cutting 24p. If you enter more frames then are in a second then they spill over and you get 1:06.

  • David Kuhnen

    March 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    John-Michael explains the +29 = 1:06 duration very well.

    You should also be aware that “drop-frame” timecode only exists for the 29.97 frame rate.
    23.976 and 59.94 do not use drop-frame timecode.

    David Kuhnen
    BVK-Milwaukee
    Video Editor/Engineer

  • Andrew Traweek

    March 9, 2013 at 1:18 am

    DERP. Doing this as long as I have and missing the fact that I only have 23 frames per second is slightly embarrassing. I’ve been 29.97 for as long as I can remember.

    ID10T error. Feel free to recount this story of extreme stupidity in your edit bays. LOL.

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