Who uses -12 tone?

[Brian Pitt]

go ahead and correct me if I’m wrong…but I think you would use a -12 tone when delivering your content on an analog source (i.e. Betacam SP)

[Aaron Neitz]

Here in socal post industry, all digital tone is -20 and is matched up to -3db on BetaSP for analog dubs (though those are far and few between). I couldn’t tell you why -12 is the default? Unless that’s considered your safe “hot” level?

[Jeremy Garchow]

-12db done is default on some ‘prosumer’ DV cameras and decks.

[Chris Borjis]

If apple wants the world to take FCP as seriously as it deserves, it should default the bars and tone “tone” to -20 like everybody else uses. It does it -12 everytime prefs are trashed or drivers/firmware updated.

They also need to completely remove all the useless and unprofessional features (like the original titler…I mean its completely unuseable)

If final cut extreme has its tone defaulted to -12 I’m going to have to pay Cupertino a visit!

[Tom Wolsky]

If they remove legacy functionality from the application it could crash older projects that users may want to open. All their old titlers are all neatly in one folder for you to ignore.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

[Tom Wolsky]

Just to add to my previous post, while DigiBeta decks and other professional equipment use -20dB, the vast majority of users are not using DigiBeta. Let’s be honest there are hundreds of thousands of users around the world who do not use uncompressed formats. So do you cater to perhaps a few thousand high end users worldwide, or do you cater to the vast majority of users? I agree it would be nice if there were separate presets with B&T for -12 and for -20, but that fix is way, way, way down on my totem pole of things that need to be done in FCP.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

[Chris Borjis]

agreed. 🙂

Fix all the EXISTING features first imo.

But defaulting to -20 (even for pro/con-sumer use) is still very helpful and the way it should be.

I can tell you its frustrating when I’m seaming short films together for a film festival
and a lot of folks have -12 or even -1 tone!?!? and flat bars that don’t register on the scope.

Funny, a lot of folks just max out the volume like a cd mix, which would blast away and peg
meters on my pro decks if I let them.

[Andy Mees]

tough call … i’d be inclined to suggest that Final Cut “Pro” adopt all standard professional norms, amongst them would be the -20db line up for tone
if FCE uses -12db then thats all well and good, and if iMovie doesn’t use them at all then I’m not complaining either … but with Pro moniker should come Pro standards.

now, having said that, I totally agree that this is waaay down the list of things I’d rather they’d do first.