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Who owns video that was shot?
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1.) If something like this ever made its way to the courts, how does one prove that he/she is the one who shot the video? Is possession of the master tape enough to establish who shot the video? What if I shoot this DVC PRO HD with a P2 card and transfer the footage to my mac and erase the original footage from the card?
2.) “Regarding the training video you shot. If you pointed your camera at it and recorded it with intent of making a copy, you’re most likely in violation of copyright. If it is depicted as part of the background for a 5-10 second shot, I’d be inclined to say you’re o.k. ”
What do you mean by “depicted as part of the background?” Not sure what you meant by this?
Thanks for the links! I will check them out.
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[Steve Wargo] “The original Jane Fonda (traitor bitch)”
Actually a very nice woman. Met her multiple times when she was dating Ted Turner, extremely pleasant and chatty.
Also edited a documentary for her daughter, Vanessa Vadim, very very nice woman as well.
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“With the right people, a contract is never needed. With the wrong people, it’s never enough.”
Words from a pro I respect.I did one of these deals early in my career, a simple contract that stated our client would pay for all the gear and post rental directly, and we would split a portion of every tape sold.
Later we found out he was stiffing the rental company and also that he’d gone and ordered several hundred more tape dubs than we had agreed on without letting us know about it, or about how many MORE he was selling. Wound up having to take him to small claims, where we won eventually, but what a pain and months of delay to get back a few thousand bucks.
My take on these deals is, what business are you in; are you in the video production business or are you in the zero-interest loan business? Repeat to yourself: “I am not a bank! “Beginners are often targeted for these kinds of shady deals because they have not built up a healthy amount of distrust yet.
Get the whole thing on paper, notarized, get proof that money has changed hands as part of the agreement (in legal terms this is using the term “consideration” to prove you had a true contract in effect, that’s what made our case. A verbal agreement might get thrown out but stands a better chance if you can prove money changed hands).
Work out the costs based on standard practices and your day rate, and if he hasn’t got enough money, bill him in installments if you need to. Just make sure all your rentals and editor’s time are paid in full first, right off the top, before you hand anything over to the client. That way, if the deal goes bad, you are only out your profit an a little pride, not your expenses, and YOUR word in the local industry and your reputation is preserved. Not destroyed by association.
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“The original Jane Fonda (traitor bitch)”
Wow, I honestly can’t believe Steve Wargo put that in one of his responses. Until now, I always really looked forward to his comments and feedback. Jane actually lives only 30 miles from me and is quite an amazing woman who selflessly contributes her time and money to quite a few very worthwhile projects and causes. If you have a political beef, what she did so many years ago pales in comparison to what the current residents of the White house have lied about and gotten away with for almost 8 years now.
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Are we talking about the same Jane Fonda who went to VietNam during the war and condemned our POWs. Is that the Jane Fonda that we’re both talking about here?
Yep! Hanoi Jane. That’s the one. Nice girl.
https://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
Every time she has a movie coming out, she goes public with some phony apology over her actions. No thanks.
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[Christopher Wright] “If you have a political beef, what she did so many years ago pales in comparison to what the current residents of the White house have lied about and gotten away with for almost 8 years now.”
Strange you didn’t mention the convicted liar from the 8 years before that.
Gregory Smith
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Actually I could mention quite a bit more here, but the point is posters should stick to the thread and keep their personal political “grindings” out of the postings here at the Cow. Politics has no place here. This etiquette has been mentioned more than once in these forums.
As far as the original poster’s question, this “rights” issue has been beaten to death even in this very same forum over and over again on the Cow (just do a search), and the answer always is, whoever has the better lawyer and deeper pockets wins. Case in point, Peter Jackson versus the greed Masters at New Line….
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[Gregory Smith] “Strange you didn’t mention the convicted liar from the 8 years before that.”
You mean the one who had oral sex with an intern? I don’t recall 4,000 U.S. Soldiers dying because of that lie.
Sorry, couldn’t let that comment go.
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[Christopher Wright] “As far as the original poster’s question, this “rights” issue has been beaten to death even in this very same forum over and over
Yes, this topic and “I can use copyrighted music for my productions, right?” Do a search and go back 2 years. You’ll find all kinds of interesting material.
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and I think with that one I hear the sound of a hammer hitting the nail squarely on the head and driving it home….
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