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  • Which format to export for youtube without losing the quality after uploading?

    Posted by John Sierra on July 9, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    After exporting from Adobe Premiere Pro CS.5, the media quality is great when playing it off the computer. But as soon as it’s on Youtube, it loses the quality. I’ve tried many different formats and codecs but the quality on Youtube still stays the same and now I’m not sure what to do.

    Here are my project details (if there’s anymore to add please let me know):

    Frame size: 720 x 576
    Aspect Ratio: 4:3
    25.00 fps
    Preview file format: QuickTime DV PAL
    Codec: DV25 PAL
    Footage wasn’t shot in HD

    I’ve read on many forums that the H.264 format is best for uploading. I’ve tried that with the preset as Youtube SD. The quality of the video on my computer is fine but once uploaded, the quality is very blurry. Here’s a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aBJivbC29U
    The quality looks slightly better here cause of the smaller screen, but the original is a lot more clearer and sharper.

    I’ve also tried exporting it as a .mov file and its the same results. The playback on premiere pro is great quality. Are there any settings to change when exporting? Is there a way to export the playback in premiere pro as a format? I’ve looked on many forums but they’ve all mostly given the same answer of just using the H.264 format with the preset as Youtube SD

    Though I have noticed that it doesn’t matter what file size I upload or how many bitrates each has because it seems like all of them are scaled down to the same bitrate by Youtube

    Appreciate any help

    Alexander Cockburn replied 12 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Alex Gerulaitis

    July 9, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    A shot in the dark: have you tried upscaling to 1080p (or 2K) and uploading as such?

    Try also uploading (a sample) to Vimeo and perhaps Google Drive or Dropbox so we could have access to the original and compare the quality.

  • Ivan Myles

    July 10, 2013 at 3:44 am

    The original file is 720×576 with rectangular pixels and the YouTube version is 656×480 with square pixels. You would be better off exporting your file at 640×480 or 960×720. Render a short test clip at both resolutions and see how they look when uploaded.

    In addition, make sure the YouTube player is sized appropriately. If it’s too big or too small the video will be rescaled during playback.

  • Chris Tompkins

    July 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    and get away from the dv codec, it’s horrible.

    Chris

  • John Sierra

    July 10, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    @ Alex

    I uploaded a 1080p version but it’s just as blurry as the other videos. I’ve put up two sample files on my profile, you can download them from there (Vimeo kept downscaling the videos to 4mb regardless of my upload size and also made the downloaded version blurry). The files on my profile are both at the original quality I’m looking for (they’re the sequence…..)

    @ Ivan

    I tried both frame sizes and they’re on my Youtube channel as:
    – 640 x 480 = Sequence 01_1
    – 960 x 720 = Sequence 01_2

    It slightly improved but still wasn’t significant enough. I also tried exporting from Premiere Pro with an aspect ratio as square pixels but it didn’t make much difference. I found it surprising though that even though the 1080p version was 100mb compared to the others which were 31mb, the quality was still brought down to the same level. Even when using a .mov file, its still the same result.

    @ Chris

    I can’t change the source codec/format. The footage is all from a game and I’ve been using an older capture card. I don’t think I’ll be able to re-film everything again because it’s around 2 hours of footage

    I’ve seen posts about a way of converting SD quality into HD. Would that be a viable option?

  • Chris Tompkins

    July 10, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I see, you’re original footage is DV PAL.
    I would export using the youtube specs for SD videos, see pic here:

    Chris

  • John Sierra

    July 11, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Using the guidelines, what settings should I put when exporting on Premiere Pro? I can’t find some of them such as “2 consecutive B frames, closed GOP, CABAC, colour space”. Here are the settings I tried which still gave a blurry image once uploaded:

    Format: H.264
    Video:
    – PAL
    – 640 x 480
    – 25 fps
    – Field order = None (progressive)
    – Aspect ratio = 4:3
    – Profile = High
    – Lvl = 3.0
    – VBR, 1 Pass
    – Target bitrate = 3
    – Max bitrate = 6

    Is there anything I’m missing or something to change?

  • Chris Tompkins

    July 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Yes, change:

    VBR to 2 pass for one thing and see this pic for the rest:

    Outside of that, it’s the best it’s going to be and you’ll have to live with it IMO.

    Chris

  • Ivan Myles

    July 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    – Export 640×480 with Aspect set to Square Pixels (1.0000).
    – Enable Maximum Render Quality and export directly from Premiere Pro (i.e. don’t use the Queue when rescaling).
    – The bitrate settings recommended by Chris should be fine. For best quality maximize average bitrate and set Key Frame Distance to one (1) frame.
    – Under the Multiplexer tab set Stream Compatibility to Standard (it defaults to iPod).

  • John Sierra

    July 14, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Every video I upload is blurry at 360, but if I change the settings to 480 it becomes clear which is great. I’m now just trying and experimenting with each of these export settings to see which one gives the best quality.

    Thank’s for the help

  • Alexander Cockburn

    October 16, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Hi Shamik,

    You Tube will default to an SD player based on your internet speed..there is no way to guarantee HD playback (unless you embed the video). Try clicking HD on your YT player first and see if it plays better?

    This is the same for every viewer so no guarantee your viewers will see HD unless they have ticked the box to play all content in HD…

    Hope this helps..

    Alex

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