Where’s our 5K Retina Cinema Display?

[Lance Bachelder]

Yeah I was waiting for that too – would be incredible to have them side by side. Wondering if the maxed out iMac will be all one needs for editing – meaning do I need a new Mac Pro?

It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

This is just a guess, but I think that the entire Apple product line couldn’t push a 5k screen, so they don’t sell it.

I was hoping for one as well.

[Jason Porthouse]

Would be neat if you could use a secon retina iMac as a slave monitor whilst levering the second GPU and processor for rendering…

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[Mitch Ives]

[Steve Connor] “where’s our 5K Cinema Display?”

Exactly… but why am I not surprised? Apple can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory better than anyone. This decision will sure have people feeling good about their expensive Mac Pro purchases, huh?

To Lance’s question, I suppose everything is subjective. To a lot of people, an iMac is enough. Hell, Bill’s using a laptop and says it’s enough.

To those of us with really powerful Mac Pro’s, the time saved by all that speed and ram is worth it. Especially, with Motion. I just finished eleven videos that started in Motion and ended in FCP X. This years were even more complicated than last year’s and I did them in less than 1/3 the time it took last year on an old style Mac Pro with a state of the art upgraded display card. While an iMac would be faster than the old Mac Pro, it isn’t anywhere near the new Mac Pro’s speed (depending on config of course).

So, will an iMac be fast enough? I guess that depends on how demanding you are… but I’d be willing to bet that a 5K iMac would still be nice.

BTW, I read somewhere than an iMac can be used as a stand alone monitor. If true, it’s an expensive way to get a simple monitor, but might be an option.

Mitch Ives
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[Santiago Martí]

Some time ago Dell announced the new 5K ultrasharps. I’m almost sure they use the same panels, so both models must be near.

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[David Lawrence]

[Jeremy Garchow] “This is just a guess, but I think that the entire Apple product line couldn’t push a 5k screen, so they don’t sell it.”

I think you’re exactly right.

They make note of the new TCON (timing controller) hardware in the new iMac:

Orchestrating the performance of 14.7 million pixels.

A more advanced timing controller.

The timing controller, or “TCON,” is the brains of the display — it tells each pixel what to do and when to do it. Because iMac with Retina 5K display has four times as many pixels as the standard 27-inch iMac display, the TCON had to be able to handle more information than ever. But even the most powerful timing controllers available couldn’t manage this number of pixels, so we had to create a new one with four times the bandwidth of the previous-generation 27-inch iMac — up to 40 Gbps. Now a single supercharged chip beautifully orchestrates the symphony of all 14.7 million pixels.

I don’t think you’ll see new cinema displays until this chip is in all machines across the board. Even though my top-of-the-line retina MacBook Pro can handle 4K, I’ll probably need to replace it to use this 5K screen. I have no idea how the Mac Pro would do.

I was looking forward to a 4K Cinema Display to act as a USB3/Thunderbolt/ethernet hub for my laptop. Looks like I not only have to wait, but will likely need to get a whole new machine if I want an Apple solution. I’m disappointed too.

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[David Lawrence]

Update:

Good article about this on The Verge:

https://www.theverge.com/2014/10/16/6990629/why-is-apples-999-display-stuck-in-2011

“At such a scale, even the best existing technologies wouldn’t have made this iMac possible,” Apple says. To a degree that’s true, because even Thunderbolt 2 isn’t designed for that resolution, something that’s coming in a new version of DisplayPort technology announced last month.”

So it’s probably DisplayPort 1.3 that we’ll have to wait for across the line before we get a 5K cinema display. How long before this new standard gets adopted?

https://www.displayport.org/pr/vesa-releases-displayport-1-3-standard/

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[David Lawrence] “They make note of the new TCON (timing controller) hardware in the new iMac:”

I listened to that part of the video like 4 times this afternoon and could NOT make out what the hell he was saying! 🙂 Now, I know. TCON!

Thanks for pointing to the website.

[David Lawrence] “I was looking forward to a 4K Cinema Display to act as a USB3/Thunderbolt/ethernet hub for my laptop. Looks like I not only have to wait, but will likely need to get a whole new machine if I want an Apple solution. I’m disappointed too.
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This monitor is looking better and better: https://www.lg.com/id/monitor/lg-34UM95

[Robin S. kurz]

I’d say it’s pretty simple.

First Thunderbolt iMac: May 2011

First Thunderbolt Display: July 2011

You do the math. 🙂

I’d also say making sure there is enough supply for the iMac first, before making the standalone version available is simply good business sense. They’ve had enough supply problems in the past (that the pundits jumped all over of course) to not want even more. Especially when you’re dealing primarily with the usual whiny “they don’t care about pros!” crowd that I’m sure will be the people most interested. 😉

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[Mitch Ives]

Unless of course they’ve discovered that a current MacPro doesn’t have the necessary horsepower to drive a 5K display. Then they’ll either have to make a 4K display or bail on the “pro’s” as you refer to them…

My bet… they’ll update the Mac Pro to support a 5K display and leave the people with 6 month old Mac Pros behind… but then I’m probably just being whiny…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

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