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Where is editing going
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“Personally I’m more interested in the “text file to synthesized VO” tool. Hearing my own voice in a scratch VO is an irritation I can do without, saving the 20 minutes or so recording it and cleaning it up is even more pleasant. “
I’m actually surprised that Apple hasn’t done anything in this area as well as speech to text and syncing to text. Adobe has dabbled in this a bit unsuccessfully and Avid’s tools (still the best in this field) are tied up in a contract negotiation with Nexidia, who owns that IP. You’d think that with Siri technology, Apple would have found a way to make something in this area useful with FCPX.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Dennis Radeke] “Native File Format Support – Not transcoding media and being able to edit immediately is a huge time saver and one of the biggest things that moves/moved broadcasters and large media companies away from Avid and FCP7.
“Hello Dennis
Can I ask for clarification on this seeing as you are here please?
With PP you don’t need to transcode media Full Stop (or Period).
You put whatever it is in the timeline and don’t give it a second thought? Just cut and then export to whatever you like?
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[James Ewart] “With PP you don’t need to transcode media Full Stop (or Period).”
Dennis can correct me if I’m wrong, but essentially yes. Some formats perform better when they are transcoded, but Premiere Pro accepts a pretty wide swath of codecs, rates, sizes without a hiccup.
Toss ProRes, DNxHD, MP4, MPEG2, H264 AVC-Intra, XAVC, uncompressed, HDV, etc. all on the same timeline and edit away in real-time without too many issues. Better performance set to 1/2-res in the viewer (like “better performance” in X), but otherwise it works great.
In fact there is no built-in transcode function in Premiere Pro unless you consolidate and trim the finished sequence. Adobe leaves standard transcoding to Prelude or Adobe Media Encoder.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[James Ewart] “Can I ask for clarification on this seeing as you are here please?
With PP you don’t need to transcode media Full Stop (or Period).
You put whatever it is in the timeline and don’t give it a second thought? Just cut and then export to whatever you like?”
Hi James,
I would hope other can chime in to give you non-vendor replies. In principle, yes it’s that simple. In the timeline, we resolve aspect ratio, frame rate, codec and if you wish frame size. Of course we give you total control on how the picture looks. When outputting, we resolve pull up/down cadences from different codecs for output so your visual quality is top notch.
Of course, your mileage will vary based on several factors…
Large frame, 4k and higher media can break the rules a bit if they’re particularly heavy. Performance may suffer to a point where you would want to create some proxies. That said, I’ve had great success with RED, 4k H264 like the GH4, several Sony flavors and some others. A lot depends on the kind of system you put in front of it too – i.e. a laptop isn’t going to give you the same performance as a souped up desktop.
Finally, in my experience with editors, a lot depends on what you consider an acceptable responsive editing experience. Codecs will vary it a lot here. i.e a ProRes 422 1080i on a MacPro will give you a much more responsive edit experience than an older laptop without GPU acceleration and asking it to smoothly scrub 4k H.264 media.
Hope this helps,
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**Edit – this is pretty/totally superfluous given the responses above but anyway…**
yes. That’s the short answer. As long as you have a mac made in say the last four years, preferably an i7 processor, 16 GB of ram and 1GB+ on the GPU – you’re off to the races. It will cut anything. It’s a very very responsive timeline too. Anyone here who uses both will acknowledge PPro is lot less laggy than X.
For instance if you had 5K red footage – you could cut that on any half decent mac – drop it to quarter res on the monitor so it’s 1K, premiere will debayer off the GPU, and you’re cutting red native at 1K resolution. I cut 4K GH4 avchd on a three year old (stacked) SSD laptop on location for a few weeks. Premiere ate the stuff up at 1/2 res.
It’ll take anything – david lawrence coined the phrase years ago: it’s the honey badger. You can also set it up to do ProRes passthrough encodes like FCP7 would – if that’s to your taste.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “It’ll take anything – david lawrence coined the phrase years ago: it’s the honey badger. You can also set it up to do ProRes passthrough encodes like FCP7 would – if that’s to your taste.
“I’m sure I read somewhere some years ago that it was the Mercury Playback engine that made Apple throw on the towel with Legacy.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “yes. That’s the short answer. As long as you have a mac made in say the last four years, preferably an i7 processor, 16 GB of ram and 1GB+ on the GPU – you’re off to the races. It will cut anything. It’s a very very responsive timeline too.”
I use a 2009 MP with a modern-ish Nvidia GPU (2gig VRAM) and I get surprisingly good performance when using GOP codecs in PPro. Honestly, I never thought a 6yr old computer would be useful on a daily basis but here I am.
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[Herb Sevush] “Adobe’s version claims to work with any music clip. If this really works it will be a killer blow to SonicFire Pro, of which I am a happy user.”
I don’t think it will be a killer blow. A stinging slap perhaps. Sonicfire Pro gives you control over which instruments you want to hear and when. Audition’s new remix tool will be a welcome backup to Sonicfire Pro.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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[Oliver Peters] “In fact there is no built-in transcode function in Premiere Pro unless you consolidate and trim the finished sequence.”
I would say that if you need a transcode workflow, that’s exactly one of the uses that Prelude is designed for. Imagine a whole program for “Log and Transfer” and throw on “keyword tagging” as well.
As an aside, don’t forget about Adobe Media Encoder’s watch folder capabilities. If you just need massive, raw background transcoding, this solution will work great.
Dennis – Adobe guy
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